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Old 11-02-2015, 05:53 PM   #41
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You have no idea? You don't know anything about physics? How about this? I'll put my hand flat on the floor and you use your hand to strike it. Now you put your hand on the floor and I'll use my booted foot to strike it. Deal?
You're assuming that Rossi used his full strength and that he was able to get a direct impact while squeezing his leg between the fairing and brake lever guard. So just because legs are stronger than hands doesn't mean the pressure resulting in the brake line was above what Marc's hand could produce. Have you gotten your hands on the data and compared it to Marc's ultimate strength?
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You're assuming that Rossi used his full strength and that he was able to get a direct impact while squeezing his leg between the fairing and brake lever guard. So just because legs are stronger than hands doesn't mean the pressure resulting in the brake line was above what Marc's hand could produce. Have you gotten your hands on the data and compared it to Marc's ultimate strength?
Look up the word "impact". You understand the concepts of time and acceleration, right?

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We believe that this pressure was a result of Rossi's kick. The data acquisition from Marc's bike is available if anybody from Dorna, the FIM or media want to check.”
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http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/224...ck-claims.html
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You're assuming that Rossi used his full strength and that he was able to get a direct impact while squeezing his leg between the fairing and brake lever guard. So just because legs are stronger than hands doesn't mean the pressure resulting in the brake line was above what Marc's hand could produce. Have you gotten your hands on the data and compared it to Marc's ultimate strength?


So the full strength of VR's leg = full grip strength of MM? I guess you believe MM is super human. How often have you used your full grip strength on a brake lever on the track or anywhere for that matter?
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Dang Bevo, pigfarmer was right, give it a rest.
Much of what Honda said in the linked article is opinion and can't be proven.
What I said about the data is still true, it is subject to interpretation.

The fact that you are belittling anybody that disagrees with your assessment just shows your grasping at straws trying to prove something that can't be proven.
You expressed your feelings, others have expressed theirs, let it go.
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Dang Bevo, pigfarmer was right, give it a rest.
If it bothers you, feel free not to respond. You don't know what the data shows or proves. Honda has made it available and Yamaha has not discredited it. My OP contains no comment by me. If you guys want to make it about me (read all the posts in this thread) I'm more than happy to oblige.
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Can I put Rossi on my fantasy football roster? That kind of precision kicking is going to waste!

I do find it funny that out of the last 5 or so articles about the incident, Bevo mentions none of them because they side with Rossi. One comes out where honda claims they have possibly definitive data of maybe a brake lever kick (even tho Marquez said it was arm that got kicked but whatever, right?!) and he's all over that .

They really should have you on the payroll, you're loyalty to HRC genitalia is intense.

Btw, I also find it funny that every single world championship rider that has weighed in (and aren't on dorna's books) has said Rossi should have parked him sooner. None of them mentioned a brake lever kick, probably bc they don't allow that kind of bullshit into their lives.
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Can I put Rossi on my fantasy football roster? That kind of precision kicking is going to waste!

I do find it funny that out of the last 5 or so articles about the incident, Bevo mentions none of them because they side with Rossi. One comes out where honda claims they have possibly definitive data of maybe a brake lever kick (even tho Marquez said it was arm that got kicked but whatever, right?!) and he's all over that .

They really should have you on the payroll, you're loyalty to HRC genitalia is intense.

Btw, I also find it funny that every single world championship rider that has weighed in (and aren't on dorna's books) has said Rossi should have parked him sooner. None of them mentioned a brake lever kick, probably bc they don't allow that kind of bullshit into their lives.


Crash.net is the source of the link (story). Rossi said in English that the bar made contact with his leg. If he could feel it then he could kick it. His post race interview with Dylan Gray was telling both by what he did and didn't say.

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He said he thinks the bar touched, but thanks for proving yourself wrong.

Based on your statement, the bar touched his leg prior to it moving (in contact that Marquez initiated no less). Rossi's foot went down and back, it would have had to come. up to contact a lever if the bar was already contacting higher up the leg.

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He said he thinks the bar touched, but thanks for proving yourself wrong.


, you got me. Do you know how to post his quote?
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He said he thinks the bar touched, but thanks for proving yourself wrong.

Based on your statement, the bar touched his leg prior to it moving (in contact that Marquez initiated no less). Rossi's foot went down and back, it would have had to come. up to contact a lever if the bar was already contacting higher up the leg.

You're welcome. I await your dismissive response based on emotion.
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Ok, sooo you have confirmed that you're wrong about the kick. Arguing with you is super-easy.
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Ok, sooo you have confirmed that you're wrong about the kick. Arguing with you is super-easy.
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Uh, don't see the word, "think". Rossi is trying to cover his .

I get it, you believe VR, not MM or your eyes.
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The Doctor declared that he wanted to deliberately force Marquez wide, in order to try and breakaway from the #93 after countless passes between the pair. But instead Rossi's leg made contact with Marquez's handlebar, dumping the double world champion on the ground.
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Look man, when all is said n done in the end Rossi 's got a bald head like big brody. Race or no race has anyone ever had somebody trying to run you off the road at highspeeds? Don't think so. He did what anyone who rides would do if someone bumped in to them ,the old kick n throttle.
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My eyes. Race direction's eyes. Professional racer's eyes. Basically everyone's eyes except yours and HRC.


So discount the race announcers, MM, crash.net, numerous headlines and the writer's words "But instead Rossi's leg made contact with Marquez's handlebar, dumping the double world champion on the ground."

There was no clear view of MM's bar end so Race direction wasn't going to act on the claim of a kick.

If you actually read the OP link, Honda had a lot of nice things to say about your boy Rossi.
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