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View Poll Results: For Beginners the debate on to go under 600 or right at 600 is a problem, what size was your first s
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Old 07-05-2005, 07:14 PM   #41
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It doesn't really matter if you respect the power or not.* I'd wager that most new riders don't get up from laying their bike down and think "If I had only respected the power, this wouldn't have happened."* In panic situations all you're trying to do is not die.* Having an immensely powerful motorcycle with really grabby brakes is counter to this purpose.* Basically any panic action a squid is going to make is going to be overexaggerated by the high performance nature of the bike, and cause more problems.
+1 good point

I know that people will get the bike they want....the real mature decision is not getting that cool bike as your first bike. So all this stuff about maturity and respect is bullshit and an excuse to justify you showing up with an R1. The part you'll realize later (if you make it to "later") is that you would have had so much more fun, confidence, and skill starting with a beginner bike instead of riding with the feeling of "oh am I gonna kill myself" or the opposite feeling of "I've tested the power, I can handle it" with that full out race bike. More importantly, you don't need anyone's advice here about what's right and wrong which you seem to continue to seek.
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Old 07-05-2005, 08:51 PM   #42
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Re: First Bike Size

well Im gonna do what Im gonna do like everyone else in this world.....but I can promise you that it for sure isnt an R1. I just want to give insight to anyone else looking to ride because this seems to be one of the biggest debates in the rider world, I just wanted to see both sides of the arguement.
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Re: First Bike Size

This isn't really a debate at all in the rider world. Its a debate betwen riders and non-riders who have no idea what buying a sportbike is really getting themselves into.
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Re: First Bike Size

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well Im gonna do what Im gonna do like everyone else in this world.....but I can promise you that it for sure isnt an R1. I just want to give insight to anyone else looking to ride because this seems to be one of the biggest debates in the rider world, I just wanted to see both sides of the arguement.
no R1 !!!! bummmer
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Old 07-06-2005, 11:55 AM   #45
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well Im gonna do what Im gonna do like everyone else in this world.....but I can promise you that it for sure isnt an R1. I just want to give insight to anyone else looking to ride because this seems to be one of the biggest debates in the rider world, I just wanted to see both sides of the arguement.
no R1* !!!!* bummmer
actually I doubt I'll even go with a R6, I rode my boss's and didnt really like the way it sat......but when I rode the F4i, I really liked it, GSXR as well.....and I havent rode a ZX6-R but when I sat on it I felt extreemly far away from the bars.....no bueno
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Old 07-08-2005, 08:56 PM   #46
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My 1st bike was a 1995 Ninja 250. Long time ago. I am definitley glad to have started out that way for many of the reasons already listed. I got into enough trouble without having the extra 100hp. There was a lot I needed to learn about bike handling and going down the road. I kept that bike for 2 years and 17k miles. It didn't have a chance in the straights, but it was very fun to corner on as corner speeds needed to be kept up.
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Old 07-13-2005, 11:17 PM   #47
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Re: First Bike Size

I think the question we should ask here is What CC is your bike and how many wrecks have you had?
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Old 07-14-2005, 07:30 AM   #48
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Re: First Bike Size

Its not necessarily the CC. All R bikes are bad first bike choices. 600's are just a little more managable because they don't have the torque that larger bikes have.
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Old 07-14-2005, 08:02 AM   #49
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Re: First Bike Size

Well my first bike that I bought (but still haven't ridden) is a 93 CBR 600 F2. I didn't buy it cuz it was a 600 though just so I can say I have a cooler bike. It just happened to be cheap and the price I wanted to pay, it was about the money not the bike.
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Re: First Bike Size

mabye poorshito should take a hint and do some reading on this thread.... what a ...mabye there is a reason everyones first bike is not a liter bike...

but then again, people who get 1000's for their first bike must be smarter than all of us
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Its not necessarily the CC.* All R bikes are bad first bike choices.* 600's are just a little more managable because they don't have the torque that larger bikes have.
thats true.. they are full on race bikes.. i have been riding for years and my first street bike was an R, but then again, i also have the experience
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but then again, people who get 1000's for their first bike must be smarter than all of us
This is not true. The bike I have now was my first ever and im still riding it and in one piece and in very good condition I may add. I ride a '01 gixxer 1000. I know plenty of guys on 600s that have had accidents left and right. I consider myself smarter than a lot of people, but not the smartest person in the world either. Im doin just fine in life so I must be doin somethin right right:
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but then again, people who get 1000's for their first bike must be smarter than all of us
This is not true. The bike I have now was my first ever and im still riding it and in one piece and in very good condition I may add. I ride a '01 gixxer 1000. I know plenty of guys on 600s that have had accidents left and right. I consider myself smarter than a lot of people, but not the smartest person in the world either. Im doin just fine in life so I must be doin somethin right right:
i got ur back capafool ...
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but then again, people who get 1000's for their first bike must be smarter than all of us
This is not true. The bike I have now was my first ever and im still riding it and in one piece and in very good condition I may add. I ride a '01 gixxer 1000. I know plenty of guys on 600s that have had accidents left and right. I consider myself smarter than a lot of people, but not the smartest person in the world either. Im doin just fine in life so I must be doin somethin right right:
i got ur back capafool ...
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actually look at* the voting, more people are voting for more 600+ then -600


+ the same guys (when they work in a dealership) try to put u one the biggest bike ... i wonder why lol
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JoeRider.....what do you think about beginners having a 600cc......just as long as they dont ride like a jackass they will be fine?
everyone rides like a jackass the first time they get the bike. almost everyone.

People say i'll take it easy cause its my first bike, yadda yadda. one week in they are all breaking the speed limit and few months in lanesplitting and what not. then it hits them that motorcycling is not a game and to take it easy. some may take a crashing to learn some may not.

anyways take it easy, i only met 2 bikers out of the many that were scared of their r6 as a first bike. both already got out of the game within a year riding because it didnt suit them. maybe if they started smaller they wouldnt have been scared, but who knows.
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but then again, people who get 1000's for their first bike must be smarter than all of us
This is not true.* The bike I have now was my first ever and im still riding it and in one piece and in very good condition I may add.* I ride a '01 gixxer 1000.* I know plenty of guys on 600s that have had accidents left and right.* I consider myself smarter than a lot of people, but not the smartest person in the world either.* Im doin just fine in life so I must be doin somethin right* right:
also remember this is the guy saying "it's nearly impossible to crash" and "i will never crash"
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