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Old 11-01-2015, 08:53 PM   #21
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Everyone who successfully passes the Basic Rider Course receives the Texas DPS MSB-8 form in duplicate. If you are 18 and over and have an unrestricted Class A,B or C license, take the MSB-8 to a DPS office, pass the short knowledge quiz they offer and an eye test, and you're done!

When you walk into the building they're not going to ask you how you got there.
you missed the point Epic fail DPS HQ . Did I say MSF any thing ?
No I did not . I said show up to this location with no M stamp , and say hello while on a motorcycle

For Fk tard ya I know some people .
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Old 11-01-2015, 09:22 PM   #22
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waaaayyyy back when I got my license the first time, I had to get a friend to ride it down, and drive my truck. Had to show proof of insurance for both and DL for both of us, then pass the written before I could do the drive test. Car honk for turns and all.
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you missed the point Epic fail DPS HQ . Did I say MSF any thing ?
No I did not . I said show up to this location with no M stamp , and say hello while on a motorcycle

For Fk tard ya I know some people .


Who would drive up or ride up (motorcycle) to DPS without a license?
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Who would drive up or ride up (motorcycle) to DPS without a license?
More than you think Its a standing offer for anyone reading this with out a M stamp , and think they can just ride home
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ya I know some people .
hmm, seems ill informed. Not specific on details. As for the M endorsement challenge I'm unable to time travel back 16 years and unwilling to go outside of BW8 to where ever the that address is. I'm also straight, no offense.
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More than you think Its a standing offer for anyone reading this with out a M stamp , and think they can just ride home
What's the point in riding to DPS these days without a MSF cert? Why would they ride there in the first place?
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I didnt find any part of getting my MSF/class M difficult. This was 4 years ago.. not 20 so you old probably had a different experience. To answer your question, most guys that dont have class M probably wont have insurance either. Ask this question in the Houston Bike Nights page on Fb and everyone would tell you that they run. Most of those guys are illegal as . Try showing up to the PP1 meet and see how many guys stop for cops lol.
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"waaaayyyy back when I got my license the first time, I had to get a friend to ride it down, and drive my truck. Had to show proof of insurance for both and DL for both of us, then pass the written before I could do the drive test. Car honk for turns and all."

Pretty much my experience back in the 80's.
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This is some BS mixed with fairy tales. You could ride your bike to the DPS. There were no honks or signals from the car. You never had to get a leaners permit. And most of all, the entire thing was much easier than two days doing a course. If you don't have a friend with a car I guess it might have been trouble? They check the bike for blinkers etc. They never ran my driver's DL.

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I have had a M stamp for 22 years . Back then you had a few choices . Bike in truck , unload , licensed driver to drive DPS officer behind you . Make a couple of blocks with via horn beeps for left/right .
If you had no truck a licensed rider had to get the bike up there for you , and you still had to provide a driver/car for DPS officer .
If it wasnt like above you got a ticket , and no test performed .
21 questions on the written test .

FYI in Texas stopped with no license can = no ride home , but a tow bill to impound / ticket . Most HPD / Sheriffs ticket , but DPS good luck
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waaaayyyy back when I got my license the first time, I had to get a friend to ride it down, and drive my truck. Had to show proof of insurance for both and DL for both of us, then pass the written before I could do the drive test. Car honk for turns and all.
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Pretty much my experience back in the 80's.
just like these guys.
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I took the motor driven scooter written test in 1976. When I turned 16 and got my driver's license, the lady at the desk asked if I wanted the motorcycle endorsement on my license. She said the written test for the scooter and the motorcycle was the same so I qualified. There was no driving test for motorcycles in Alabama. That has since changed. With no formal training, you learn the hard way. I could probably use the MSF as a refresher. I am sure I have some bad habits.
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Thanks for clarifying. I was wondering where the permit thing came from. I passed easily, got it all done in about an hour, never got a permit and my driver never had a rectal exam. Overall it was simple and didn't require a two day course. Also it wasn't 20 years ago.
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What is a recommended motorcycle msf course? ?
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I took my MSF course and got my M endorsement 2 years ago. Prior to that I rode without either for a decade... my reason for not doing it sooner was that I just didn't care to have it. , I even rode all over Houston in flippy-floopies and a wife-beater! But that all changed once I became a member here. I've been rehabilitated and reformed
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Interesting stuff. Was riding this past weekend and asked two other riders who were out enjoying the 12 inches of rain. Shoulder shrugs.

I'm beginning to think folks who ride unlicensed are just scared to take the class and possibly fail the written test or, worse yet, the rider test. Have yet to hear a good excuse, or even a halfway rational one, for that matter.

And if you don't think it matters for insurance whether you have an M or not, call your insurance company (if you have insurance) and ask. Not your agent, the company. The illegal and criminal act exclusion holds up in court:

http://www.americanbar.org/publicati...gBenefits.html
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Don't forget that there is now a one-day class for experienced riders to qualify for their M. If you're interested check out our forum on MH. Have a great time at the rally this weekend!
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