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Old 10-30-2015, 10:09 PM   #21
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No it was Rossi's fault. No question. But he didn't make contact, MM did. Rossi's leg out was a reaction from MM making the initial contact *

"On 25th October 2015 during the MotoGP race of the Shell Malaysia Motorcycle Grand Prix, you deliberately ran wide on Turn 14 in order to force another rider off line, resulting in contact causing the other rider to crash."

So Rossi ran him offline which is illegal, MM made contact with Rossi which is also illegal. But MM fell.

MM is a but he did nothing wrong. Very unsportsmanlike.

Rossi is 100% correct

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No it was Rossi's fault. No question. But he didn't make contact, MM did. Rossi's leg out was a reaction from MM making the initial contact *

"On 25th October 2015 during the MotoGP race of the Shell Malaysia Motorcycle Grand Prix, you deliberately ran wide on Turn 14 in order to force another rider off line, resulting in contact causing the other rider to crash."

So Rossi ran him offline which is illegal, MM made contact with Rossi which is also illegal. But MM fell.

MM is a but he did nothing wrong. Very unsportsmanlike.
Was VR acting sportsmanlike by deliberately breaking the rules? He's losing his thinking the Spanish Mafia is after him
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Was VR acting sportsmanlike by deliberately breaking the rules?
Dude if you raced I bet you'd do the same thing. I bet
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Dude if you raced I bet you'd do the same thing. I bet
I wouldn't kick somebody, but I also wouldn't give up space. VR's not a noob. He's had tons of riders make contact. He was and frustrated as evidenced by the press conference before the race. Pretty sure since Pedrosa was leading, MM thought he could win the race and deserved the opportunity to do so just as he had in Australia
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No it was Rossi's fault. No question. But he didn't make contact, MM did. Rossi's leg out was a reaction from MM making the initial contact *

"On 25th October 2015 during the MotoGP race of the Shell Malaysia Motorcycle Grand Prix, you deliberately ran wide on Turn 14 in order to force another rider off line, resulting in contact causing the other rider to crash."

So Rossi ran him offline which is illegal, MM made contact with Rossi which is also illegal. But MM fell.

MM is a but he did nothing wrong. Very unsportsmanlike.

Rossi is 100% correct

https://youtu.be/nIhU4xjx5jc
well , not only can VR operate a bike he has the operation of another rider's mind. MM said before VR came up with this bullshit that the tires were overheating on him and he kept slowing down to cool them down. Crying cause you got beat. That's right there especially when you end up in 4th.
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well , not only can VR operate a bike he has the operation of another rider's mind. MM said before VR came up with this bullshit that the tires were overheating on him and he kept slowing down to cool them down. Crying cause you got beat. That's right there especially when you end up in 4th.
You realize Yamaha has already won the championship? Honda has been irrelevant for 4 races. SCOREBOARD!
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Dude if you raced I bet you'd do the same thing. I bet
The irony in that statement is Rossi was not racing either in that moment he felt it his duty to teach Marquez a lesson.

This latest play to appeal to Court of Sport is further evidence that he is playing games.

Rossi has been getting his handed to him lately, and getting beat regularly by Pedrosa even, which has always hm off.

Reality is he has felt this one slipping through his fingers for sometime now.
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No it was Rossi's fault. No question. But he didn't make contact, MM did. Rossi's leg out was a reaction from MM making the initial contact *

"On 25th October 2015 during the MotoGP race of the Shell Malaysia Motorcycle Grand Prix, you deliberately ran wide on Turn 14 in order to force another rider off line, resulting in contact causing the other rider to crash."

So Rossi ran him offline which is illegal, MM made contact with Rossi which is also illegal. But MM fell.

MM is a but he did nothing wrong. Very unsportsmanlike.

Rossi is 100% correct

https://youtu.be/nIhU4xjx5jc
Rossi was getting his handed to him on a platter at the end of that battle. Every time he counter attacked, MM did the same but took it up a notch. Rossi tried to keep up, but almost low sided, TWICE, on his own.

Once Rossi realized he couldn't keep up the pace of MM, he started to panic and run MM wide. Rossi isn't the on track race director, he didn't teach MM a lesson, he ran him wide, causing a wreck. That is illegal, plain and simple, he should have been black flagged and disqualified. And race direction said the reason they didn't, was because a championship, errr it's rossi.

As for the unwritten rule of not inteferring in a championship if your not in it. I don't see how anyone would expect MM to abide by that after Rossi roasted him in the press with his bizarre claims, that NO ONE took seriously. Rossi played games in the media, and MM made him pay for it on the track by showing him up.

It was great racing, up to the point of Rossi disengaging from the race and making an illegal racing move. If Rossi is able to storm from the rear to the front and win the Championship, I will applaud him for it.
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Rossi was getting his handed to him on a platter at the end of that battle. Every time he counter attacked, MM did the same but took it up a notch. Rossi tried to keep up, but almost low sided, TWICE, on his own.

Once Rossi realized he couldn't keep up the pace of MM, he started to panic and run MM wide. Rossi isn't the on track race director, he didn't teach MM a lesson, he ran him wide, causing a wreck. That is illegal, plain and simple, he should have been black flagged and disqualified. And race direction said the reason they didn't, was because a championship, errr it's rossi.

As for the unwritten rule of not inteferring in a championship if your not in it. I don't see how anyone would expect MM to abide by that after Rossi roasted him in the press with his bizarre claims, that NO ONE took seriously. Rossi played games in the media, and MM made him pay for it on the track by showing him up.

It was great racing, up to the point of Rossi disengaging from the race and making an illegal racing move. If Rossi is able to storm from the rear to the front and win the Championship, I will applaud him for it.
I agree VR lost his cool and ran MM wide but MM made initial contact and VR reacted with a knee-out causing MM to crash. Rossi got the penalty which I agree with. If the severity was more I'd probably agree with as well. All I'm trying to say is if I were racing for a championship and your slowed down and was with me just to with me I'd probably kick your down sooner. In this case MM did nothing illegal, he just broke the motogp bro code is all. So you're convinced that at that race VR and MM had equivalent pace? And at Philip island?
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All I'm trying to say is if I were racing for a championship and your slowed down and was with me just to with me I'd probably kick your down sooner.
Why not just out ride the guy that's supposedly " with you"? I guess if you can't out-ride him, you don't deserve to be a champion, now do you? It's called racing. If VR felt MM was holding him up then he should have just passed him and moved on.
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It's called racing. If VR felt MM was holding him up then he should have just passed him and moved on.
What MM is doing is not called racing. And VR could not pass him on this day. MM was faster.
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What MM is doing is not called racing. And VR could not pass him on this day. MM was faster.
VR did pass him, just as he did in Australia, he just couldn't maintain the lead because he was slower, just as he was in qualifying. I'd like to know how you can come in first place without racing. Explain that to me.

Is staring down another rider, slowing down and deliberately running him wide, racing? Motogp officials say it isn't. You're welcome
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Is staring down another rider, slowing down and deliberately running him wide, racing? Motogp officials say it isn't. You're welcome
Nope. It's OFF riding and he was penalized for it.

It's funny, there's a thread on the cmra site about this. You should log on! Voice your valued opinion! See the love you get!
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It's the job of the passer to make a clean pass, and I think VR lost his cool. That's why they both were reprimanded.
Back in the 500 GP days before all the electronic aides, and before broad power bands. VR was the prodigy, in a time when it required legendary skill.
Even though VR is the senior old guy now, still I'm surprised.
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Let's be clear I'm very disappointed in Rossi. IMO I think MM is purposely messing with VR. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Let's be clear I'm very disappointed in Rossi. IMO I think MM is purposely messing with VR. Maybe I'm wrong.
Well it was way early in the race for VR to pull like that. I have no doubt that MM thought he could win the race and wanted to win the race.
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Let's be clear I'm very disappointed in Rossi. IMO I think MM is purposely messing with VR. Maybe I'm wrong.
You're not wrong. Even some of the other riders have said they think MM had been messing with VR for the last few races.
He should have been black flagged at Sepang for what he was doing. He was obviously trying to slow rossi down by dicing back and forth with him.
The announcers said the pair was a while second slower than the leaders while that wad going on. MM should have shown some respect for the championship since he was out of it.

Easy to say rossi should have rode away but nobody can be the fastest every race, every track. MM could have given him some space and left him to run his race but clearly he was trying to slow him down.

Not because he wanted to help Lorenzo but because he wanted to hurt VR'S chance to win the championship.
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You're not wrong. Even some of the other riders have said they think MM had been messing with VR for the last few races.
He should have been black flagged at Sepang for what he was doing. He was obviously trying to slow rossi down by dicing back and forth with him.
The announcers said the pair was a while second slower than the leaders while that wad going on. MM should have shown some respect for the championship since he was out of it.

Easy to say rossi should have rode away but nobody can be the fastest every race, every track. MM could have given him some space and left him to run his race but clearly he was trying to slow him down.

Not because he wanted to help Lorenzo but because he wanted to hurt VR'S chance to win the championship.
If all that BS is true, then VR should have kept his trap shut, or complained to race officials. VR took himself out of the championship
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