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Old 07-09-2007, 03:26 PM   #21
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+ 1,000,000 on the risk with the restaurant business. My mom has a restaurant and the only way she is successful at it is having had a lot of cash for startup. If you have to lease property or pay mortgage, pay personnel, insurance, alcohol fees, etc. it adds up quick.

About the stunter crowd, I'd put the spot off to the side or back of the building. You don't want to deter 'regular' customers and there is no way you can live of the stunters.

Advertise it as a weekly bike night with stunting; that may be more successful.

And location, location, location!
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Old 07-09-2007, 03:31 PM   #22
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Yep, the main lot would be parking, 50% cars, 50% bikes, with a stunt pad out on the side, with a pation bar out there for the watchers.


I'll see if I can scan the srawings we've had done, and post those when I get to the house.
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Old 07-09-2007, 03:45 PM   #23
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You don't want to deter 'regular' customers and there is no way you can live of the stunters.
+1 and that is not a dig on stunters but rather a dig at an age demographic.
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Old 07-09-2007, 03:50 PM   #24
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A grill that caters to the sportbike community might have a chance. There are so many of them that cater to the cruiser crowd. Look at Yankees. It's in the middle of no where and they seem to be doing well. Problem with that is getting stunters to come out that far. I dunno, sounds interesting though.

I would eat there as long as your not cooking.
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Old 07-09-2007, 07:48 PM   #26
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The "Stunt Pad" would definitely be on the side of the building. Plenty of open room out front for parking, lounging, car/bike gazing, etc.

I want it to be a FUN environment for all, as well as fun for all ages.
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Old 07-09-2007, 08:42 PM   #27
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Since you're still looking for a location, I'm assuming you will be renting. That means the landlord will have a lot to say about a stunting area. That will most likely be no unless you spent lots on insurance. Next problem will be noise and litter in the parking lot making the neighbors very unhappy. I believe the city has a noise ordinance. Also stunters seem younger than the typical cruiser rider which could mean a problem with underaged drinking. I'm not saying its a bad idea, but you need to check all this out before putting out your money.
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I'd make sure you don't end up with a place everyone goes to stunt and not spend dough. I can see that one coming. The noise would be a factor too, not to mention the associated cussing, hoot'n and holler'n that goes along with it, would deter some folks. Try to think worst case senarios, I've got a lawyer buddy who could come up with two dozen different ways to sue you before you could pull a draught beer.(stinkin' PI attorneys!!!) Sounds good in theory though, but as stated before you'll have a hard time renting/leasing a place for that. Liability is such a MF'er, and seems NOBODY takes responsibilty for themselves anymore. Best of luck, I'll come for the grand opening, but NW side is WAY out for me.
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Sounds like fun and you could call it The Stunt House and for the 50 guys you could setup cones or someother way to mark off a make track and have 50races
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hey bro good luck with that. i know about the restaurant biz and its a PAIN IN T to get started. so much red tape its rediculous. but once its going, it really is easy to maintain. just keep all your I's dotted and your T's crossed and youll be fine. the food industry is the one that usually fails because most people that start them do so because they think its easy money and dont realize until its too late how much hard work it really takes to "flip a burger" or pour a beer. if you do open up an icehouse, ill be there fo sho for the grand opening!
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lol .....you need a bartender??????
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Most likely wont be renting, due to the fact that this wont be your run of the mill icehouse in a strip center. I'm going to have to pour some SERIOUS amounts of concrete to get the pad I want for the animals to stunt it up.

TexasYankee, in response to your comment about the cruisers.....

I'll welcome any race, creed, bike, car, or patron....but lets face it. I'm in this for my guys. I'm building this place from the ground up to show the guys who are my age that they DO have a place to hang. That they don't have to go out to parking lots and be afraid of getting run off by cops. They cruisers and hog riders have bars all across the state.... I want a place where the sport riders, the stunters, the phiddy guys, and all of the motorsports enthusiasts run the place. How many times have one of you stunters/sport riders been to a local icehouse on the weekend, and been given the nasty eye by 200 harley guys? I have, one too many times as a matter of fact. Now its my turn. I'm gonna turn the opinions around of the guys who have the bad name. We'll have fun, and we'll have a place to stay.
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I have seen that finding honest employees a bit tuf.
My bud owns the 2 henry hudsons and have heard that he pays his staff WELL. with little to no turnover.
i think he started a 401 K for his staff.
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I would assume you already have a "chef/kitchen manager" in mind...

If not, I would be interested in applying... I've got 8 years kitchen expirence and currently manage a Pizza resturant..

I've been toying around with the same idea now for about 6 month... starting working on a buissiness plan a scouting locations...
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Good luck and best wishes to you and your business. I hope it works out for you.
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