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Old 10-20-2015, 11:42 AM   #101
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I have not but hope he is ok. From what I got over the radio it was quite a mess.

I'm still not even sure if it was a accident in the paddock or if he rode it in like dbuck then realized he was injured
What I heard from numerous people is that he was loading his bike on the trailer and it fell on him and clipped his femoral artery. That's hearsay of course, I have no idea if it's true or not. I definitely did see a guy on the ground in the paddock with EMS, though.
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Old 10-20-2015, 01:01 PM   #102
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What I heard from numerous people is that he was loading his bike on the trailer and it fell on him and clipped his femoral artery. That's hearsay of course, I have no idea if it's true or not. I definitely did see a guy on the ground in the paddock with EMS, though.
I have to say, I watched (and helped) a lot of people unload and load their bikes at the Ride Smart days I have been to and it amazes me:

A- what people attempt to do by themselves
2- only ask for help once they are already in trouble
III- the equipment they are using (lifted truck with a 5' single wheel ramp)
d- lack of proper equipment (no ramp, looking for a ditch)
5- Their tie down/mounting system

It is a tad scary out in the pits. Just ask for help, there are plenty of people willing to help. , I even grabbed my ramp once because the one the guy had was sketchy as .
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Old 10-20-2015, 02:23 PM   #103
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I have to say, I watched (and helped) a lot of people unload and load their bikes at the Ride Smart days I have been to and it amazes me:

A- what people attempt to do by themselves
2- only ask for help once they are already in trouble
III- the equipment they are using (lifted truck with a 5' single wheel ramp)
d- lack of proper equipment (no ramp, looking for a ditch)
5- Their tie down/mounting system

It is a tad scary out in the pits. Just ask for help, there are plenty of people willing to help. , I even grabbed my ramp once because the one the guy had was sketchy as .
What's weird is it looked like a drop tail trailer... Does it get any easier to load/unload on your own? I guess mistakes happen. I never did understand how some people felt comfortable loading the motorcycle into the bed of their truck with a single cheap, skinny ramp. Alone. That's why I bought a Kendon... I could load/unload it all day without needing assistance.
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Old 10-20-2015, 02:25 PM   #104
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Also pics from Sunday are up! I was right, I look like a . But you can see me look progressively less like a as my body position improves slightly throughout the day.
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What's weird is it looked like a drop tail trailer... Does it get any easier to load/unload on your own? .
Wow, really? I was suspecting 6" lifted bro-dozer with a 5' Harbor Freight one wheel ramp. Maybe he slipped on a banana peal. or just had a brain fart.


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Also pics from Sunday are up! I was right, I look like a . But you can see me look progressively less like a as my body position improves slightly throughout the day.
The more you do track days and listen to the instructors, the better you get and 'look'. I read your previous posts about jumping to L2 right away, but I would do L1.5 at least once, before jumping into L2. L1.5 they discuss better cornering and braking techniques along with hammering on body/hand/head positioning.

I did L1/L1.5 4 or 5 times before hitting L2 at COTA last month. I don't know if it was just COTA or L2, but the pace picked up very quickly over L1/1.5 and the instructing/curriculum advances a lot too.
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What I heard from numerous people is that he was loading his bike on the trailer and it fell on him and clipped his femoral artery. That's hearsay of course, I have no idea if it's true or not. I definitely did see a guy on the ground in the paddock with EMS, though.
Since there's a few comments floating around, I wanted to provide an update on my friend who was injured in the trailer loading incident towards the end of the day. I was one of the first responders on scene.

First of all, he is well, was released from hospital on Monday evening, and will make a full recovery.

He was loading his bike onto the left side of a Droptail trailer when the incident occurred. It appears that while riding the bike up the ramp, the front wheel did not fully engage with the chock causing him to lose balance. There is not much room between the left side of the bike and the trailer wheel aluminum plated fender/cover and it appears that this minimal space did not allow him room to steady the bike hence he lost balance falling over the fender onto the ground with the bike on top of him.

While falling, he slashed and gouged open the rear of his left thigh either via the left peg of the bike or the aluminum wheel fender. The extent of the injury was so severe that paramedics classified it as "Trauma 1" and life flight was called in. Put it this way, you could put your fist inside the hole in his thigh.

He's an experience rider who has loaded a trailer a hundred times, which should remind us all that we should never load/unload alone as it can only take a split second for a serious injury to occur.

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oweoweoweeeeeeee That sucks and that hurts just reading it.

Definitely a reminder to be careful no matter how many times you have done it.
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Since there's a few comments floating around, I wanted to provide an update on my friend who was injured in the trailer loading incident towards the end of the day. I was one of the first responders on scene.

First of all, he is well, was released from hospital on Monday evening, and will make a full recovery.

He was loading his bike onto the left side of a Droptail trailer when the incident occurred. It appears that while riding the bike up the ramp, the front wheel did not fully engage with the chock causing him to lose balance. There is not much room between the left side of the bike and the trailer wheel aluminum plated fender/cover and it appears that this minimal space did not allow him room to steady the bike hence he lost balance falling over the fender onto the ground with the bike on top of him.

While falling, he slashed and gouged open the rear of his left thigh either via the left peg of the bike or the aluminum wheel fender. The extent of the injury was so severe that paramedics classified it as "Trauma 1" and life flight was called in. Put it this way, you could put your fist inside the hole in his thigh.

He's an experience rider who has loaded a trailer a hundred times, which should remind us all that we should never load/unload alone as it can only take a split second for a serious injury to occur.
Thank you very much for the update! I am glad to hear that he is doing well. I will certainly remember this next time I am loading or unloading my bike, and I'm gonna go out and roll the edges of the trailer fenders while I'm at it...
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, thats scary to think that after doing 100+ he was near killed walking his bike. Glad to hear he is OK.
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Wow, really? I was suspecting 6" lifted bro-dozer with a 5' Harbor Freight one wheel ramp. Maybe he slipped on a banana peal. or just had a brain fart.




The more you do track days and listen to the instructors, the better you get and 'look'. I read your previous posts about jumping to L2 right away, but I would do L1.5 at least once, before jumping into L2. L1.5 they discuss better cornering and braking techniques along with hammering on body/hand/head positioning.

I did L1/L1.5 4 or 5 times before hitting L2 at COTA last month. I don't know if it was just COTA or L2, but the pace picked up very quickly over L1/1.5 and the instructing/curriculum advances a lot too.
I've been talking to several people about it and based on my lap times I plan to go ahead and advance to level 2.
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I've been talking to several people about it and based on my lap times I plan to go ahead and advance to level 2.
Level 1.5 isnt a bad place to hang around for a few trackdays.
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Level 1.5 isnt a bad place to hang around for a few trackdays.
So the opinions on what I should do are half and half really. Can you tell me why I'd benefit more from level 1 than level 2? I'm just curious, because I feel like level 2 is a more natural place to be based on the pace.
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So the opinions on what I should do are half and half really. Can you tell me why I'd benefit more from level 1 than level 2? I'm just curious, because I feel like level 2 is a more natural place to be based on the pace.
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