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Old 07-05-2007, 12:21 PM   #1
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We need to have a bait bike....

Well, i have been thinking about it and with all the bikes i have seen being stolen lately, i think it would be a good idea to have a bait bike. I have seen the police shows where they use the bait car to catch car theifs and when someone steals it, the doors lock and the car turns off and they go to jail. lol

I would like to get a bike and install Lo-jack on it or even just have it being monitored. I bet we could bust alot of people this way!

Anyway, just a thought. lol
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Old 07-05-2007, 12:23 PM   #2
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first goto the police academy...i'd let the law handle that one
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Old 07-05-2007, 12:29 PM   #3
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what are you going to do when they take the bike? handle it yourself? or let the police know? frankly i dont have enough confidence in the police to act quick enough to recover my bike before the damage has been done
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EVEN IF YOU CAN TRACK THEM, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? LEGALLY, YOU CANNOT ATTEMPT ANYTHING AGAINST THEM UNLESS THEY ARE IN YOUR PROPERTY. YOUR BEST OPTION WOULD BE CALL THE POLICE ASAP AND LET THEM HANDLE THOSE MISERABLE HEARTLESS CREATURES WHO DARE TO TAKE AWAY SOMETHING AS PRECIOUS AS A BIKE FROM ANOTHER HUMAN SOUL.
BUT NOT A BAD IDEA IF YOU HAVE THE TIME TO DO IT.
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what are you going to do when they take the bike? handle it yourself? or let the police know? frankly i dont have enough confidence in the police to act quick enough to recover my bike before the damage has been done
You can store the Duc at my house, you errr need to leave the key with me though just incase I need to move it around to get the car out :laughing6
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Old 07-05-2007, 04:18 PM   #9
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EVEN IF YOU CAN TRACK THEM, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? LEGALLY, YOU CANNOT ATTEMPT ANYTHING AGAINST THEM UNLESS THEY ARE IN YOUR PROPERTY. ...
Nope wrong. you are allowed to recover your property anytime, it is yours. The phrase 'citizens arrest' even springs to mind. Now of course generally you are advised to use the assistance of law enforcement.

Heck, you are even allowed to use deadly force to stop them if you believe the property to be irreplaceable and unrecoverable if you do not take action. Again the large part is the term irreplaceable-it's quite a stretch to argue something that is mass manufactured is irreplaceable.

All that said a bait bike sounds like a bad idea though one I have often been tempted to do. Something about a few blasts of rock salt even if they do get away just feels very rewarding (I imagine).
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well if you were to do this i wouldnt start a thread about it...keep it secret
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Something about a few blasts of rock salt even if they do get away just feels very rewarding (I imagine).

Rock salt??? How 'bout buck shot?
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are you actually allowed to tackle someone and zip tie their hands together in this situation? or would you get taken to jail yourself also?
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Old 07-05-2007, 08:42 PM   #15
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Even if you have a Lo-Jack on it... you still have to contact Lo-Jack before they can start the transmitter. By having the Phantom Tracking unit, all movements will be recorded and the Police Notified Immediately from the moment your bike is moved. Even the activating key fob will vibrate and beep alerting you to the fact that someone is jacking your chit!

PM me for more info but I am already working with a couple Agencies to make this happen. More than 13 bikes a day are stolen in the Houston City limits.

lojack doesnt work that way. once the vehicle is reported stolen to the police, the VIN is entered then the tracking starts. its all handled by the PD. lojack does no monitoring, they just sell and install teh equipment.
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I dont see anything about "irreplaceable and unrecoverable" :confused1
PC 9.41. PROTECTION OF ONE'S OWN PROPERTY. (a) A person
in lawful possession of land or tangible, movable property is justified in
using force against another when and to the degree the actor reasonably
believes the force is immediately necessary to prevent or terminate
the other's trespass on the land or unlawful interference with the
property.
(b) A person unlawfully dispossessed of land or tangible, movable
property by another is justified in using force against the other when
and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately
necessary to reenter the land or recover the property if the actor
uses the force immediately or in fresh pursuit after the dispossession
and:
(1) the actor reasonably believes the other had no claim of right
when he dispossessed the actor; or
(2) the other accomplished the dispossession by using force,
threat, or fraud against the actor.
PC 9.42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY. A person is
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movable property:
(1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under
Section 9.41; and
(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly
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(A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of arson, burglary,
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mischief during the nighttime; or
(B) to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing
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from escaping with the property; and
(3) he reasonably believes that:
(A) the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by
any other means; or
(B) the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover
the land or property would expose the actor or another to a substantial
risk of death or serious bodily injury.
PC 9.43. PROTECTION OF THIRD PERSON'S PROPERTY. A person
is justified in using force or deadly force against another to protect
land or tangible, movable property of a third person if, under the circumstances
as he reasonably believes them to be, the actor would be
justified under Section 9.41 or 9.42 in using force or deadly force to
protect his own land or property and:
(1) the actor reasonably believes the unlawful interference constitutes
attempted or consummated theft of or criminal mischief to the
tangible
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(2) the actor reasonably believes that:
(A) the third person has requested his protection of the land or
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Nope wrong. you are allowed to recover your property anytime, it is yours. The phrase 'citizens arrest' even springs to mind. Now of course generally you are advised to use the assistance of law enforcement.

Heck, you are even allowed to use deadly force to stop them if you believe the property to be irreplaceable and unrecoverable if you do not take action. Again the large part is the term irreplaceable-it's quite a stretch to argue something that is mass manufactured is irreplaceable.

All that said a bait bike sounds like a bad idea though one I have often been tempted to do. Something about a few blasts of rock salt even if they do get away just feels very rewarding (I imagine).
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mine was recoverd both times it was stolen.
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I would like to try, can I? please please please... I ride slow so no high speed chase and wreck.

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Again... You are leaving the tracking to the police who don't want to be bothered with HUNTING in the first place. Also... not all police cars are equipped with the LoJack tracking equipment, yet every single one of them has the laptop database GPRS systems. Its the difference between telling the cop WHERE it is or just ASKING him to LOOK around for it.

I'm installing the system on my Hayabusa on Monday. Anyone want to see how far they can get on my bike before the cops catch them?
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