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Old 07-03-2007, 01:36 PM   #1
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Okay so since i was like 10 years old i have always admired and loved the look of the 92-94 Honda Civic (Coupe). I used to dream about owning it one day.

When the day finally came, i had saved up enuff money to buy a better car - so i did..................Fast forward to 4-5 years, i have owned a BMW M3, BMW 2 series, Porsche Boxster, 350z, Toyota Camry & Dodge " Wagon". (The latter two coming, once i got "more then one bike" :laughing6 in the garage).

Before buying any of those cars, i always went and looked at the used 92-94 Honda Civics, but always decided, nah people will think this is cooler, or my friends will dig the M3 over the Civic any day. Well i realized, every time i did that i basically thought about what others thought and not what i wanted. So finally yesterday i said "F@ck it - (rossi style), i'm gonna buy a Civic." So my search started, and i found a Civic..

Now for the "important part of this post "
So i found a 1993 Honda Civic Coupe EX. The car has 182,000 miles on it! This car is done, i mean the engine is cooked (not sure yet what's wrong with it, but it needs a new engine), the paint on it is faded grey from the back, to sun burnt on top, to strange black every where else. The wheels are like friggin 14 inch wheels, none of which match. It is a 4 sp. auto and the windows are manual! It's pretty much what you call a "f@cked up - junk vehicle", but i know i want it - i see alot in it. The best part is the title is clean, and since it does'nt move or even start the guy wants like less then $750 for it! I have never bought a car so cheap (if i do buy it!), heck that's how much i almost paid for the Honda XR50!

Questions/advice/Opinons needed on..
So what do you guys think? What kind of engine is good for this year's car, i don't care for power too much,its comes with a 1.5 liter, i'm thinking of going atleast 1.8 liter - good or bad? what engine setups run good with this car, should i go 5 sp, or leave it @ 4 sp auto. How much does a rebuilt engine cost? Labor? Recommendations on places or certain model engines? What kind of mods are good for this car? What do you guys think of price?

Thank You guys in advance..

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Old 07-03-2007, 01:38 PM   #2
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buy one with less problems imo but if thats the car you want and you feel like sinking 10k+ into fixing it go for it

the rebuild on a motor around that for me was around 3-4k just fyi
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If its an auto keep it that way, converting it is a pain. I suggest you go with the h22 which you can get out of any prelude. YOu can get a used japanese motor for cheap because they have to get new ones at 50000 miles I think.
Got any pics. As far as mods go there are millions its a civic.
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If its an auto keep it that way, converting it is a pain. I suggest you go with the h22 which you can get out of any prelude. YOu can get a used japanese motor for cheap because they have to get new ones at 50000 miles I think.
^^^^ still will be a pain in the to get in there. you'll still need custom mounts and some altering of the mounting positions, not worth it.....

Moe, talk to me at Oak hill....i can probably tear down a civic and put it back together with my eyes closed. i'll tell you everything you want to know, and what you can do with that civic

but being that you bought an automatic.....you're pretty much limited to what you can do....unless you got money to burn, i'll show you everything you can do with it.
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Old 07-03-2007, 01:54 PM   #6
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I think if you can tow it home for $500 then it is a steal. Not sure why it is your favorite although I like those cars as well. (Had one myself until about a 2 years ago.) I may have a hook up on a motor if you like... 1.6 SI with manual trans. Peppy but reliable. You will defiently want some adjustable struts and new shocks ASAP. Rip all the interior out when you first get it... save what is good and have the car painted with the interior and motor gutted. You can find someone to paint a cleaned up car in that condition for cheap and start your rebuild from there. If you run into some snags let me know i have several resources for info on these little beasts. I doubt you will have to spend $10k like some have said but it is easy to sink that much into one of these if you want all the nice go fast stuff.
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You guys really think the auto to manual is difficult? It is a matter of moving 1 bracket. Easy stuff... if you want some manual pedals let me know. I have some hiding in a garage somewhere.
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my $.02.....don't buy an automatic.......buy a manual trans and save some aggrivation........do a motor swap to B18 or B16 and put some nice rims on it and get paint......you'll love it. I had a '94 Civic coupe before I switch over to DSM's back in the mid/late 90's....that was back when we were just starting the import scene in Houston.....

I think I raced every event in Houston and Dallas for years back then.......I was digging through an old box and found a STACK of timeslips, prolly 300 at least.......that's 300 drag passes! Times ranging from 16.0 (first pass I ever made in the bone stock Civic) to 12 second passes in my '92 GSX before I sold it.
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So i found a 1993 Honda Civic Coupe EX. The car has 182,000 miles on it! It is a 4 sp. auto and the windows are manual!
all ex civics came with power windows and sunroof

So what do you guys think? What kind of engine is good for this year's car, i don't care for power too much,its comes with a 1.5 liter, i'm thinking of going atleast 1.8 liter - good or bad? what engine setups run good with this car, should i go 5 sp, or leave it @ 4 sp auto. How much does a rebuilt engine cost? Labor? Recommendations on places or certain model engines? What kind of mods are good for this car? What do you guys think of price?
all ex civics 92-95 came with 1.6l d16z6 engines, from what you're describing its either a dx or lx trim. does it even have a sunroof?
swaping auto to manual requires moving one mount on the passenger side engine bay, like moody said. personally i wouldn't do it, but if you really want, i'd find a very reliable welder or performance shop to do it. if you stick with the automatic, you're limited to civic only engines 1.5 or 1.6l, depending on the ecu installed or you'd have to get a ecu to fit the new engine. i have a 5spd transmission from a 98 civic ex as well as several drivetrain parts. both me and tony are very familiar with those year civics. i can't remember how many engines we've pulled or put it.

any 94+ integra ls engine is probably your best power/price balance. cheapest is any 1.5l civic longblock.

lmk if you have any other questions.

i'd read up on honda-tech.com for swap possibilities.

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I will be checking the car out again today. The good thing is this dude is like a few minutes away from my house, and very open about telling me any issues the car has.

In all honesty - i'm not going to be spending $10k on this car, heck all i'm really wanting to do is get a 175-200 hp motor in it, a 5 sp (or auto if its too much trouble), a yellow camel yamaha paint job, nice 18s and a nice sound system. All of which should be easily done for under $4-5k.

Buddha/Tony/Moody - i will be bugging you guys alot for questions regarding this car in the next coming weeks.

The guy said it is an EX - i don't recall seeing a Sun Roof, and since i remember seeing manual windows, i too thought it was a DX, but he said no its an EX. At that point i was busy checking other stuff out.

So what you guys are saying is that if i leave it auto - then the biggest - reliable engine i can get in it as a 1.6 Vtec?

How much do the following parts costs roughly?
1) Engine - H22 n B16-18.
2) 5 Sp M/T
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I have a motor and manual trans for the civic for $550 it has 65K miles when I swapped it out for 1.8L engine.
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You're not going to get all that, especially a 175-200whp motor for 4-5k.

Forget an H22, leave that to the Prelude and Accord guys. B18's can be cheap, or expensive. B18B1 out of Integra LS/GS is pretty cheap. The B18C1 out of the GS-R is fairly expensive, but not too bad. The B18C5 out of the Type R is too much IMO. I had a 92 hatch, B18B1, with a lil turbo kit on it. . . which is where my name comes from. Turbo_LS_Hatch
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I will be checking the car out again today. The good thing is this dude is like a few minutes away from my house, and very open about telling me any issues the car has.

In all honesty - i'm not going to be spending $10k on this car, heck all i'm really wanting to do is get a 175-200 hp motor in it, a 5 sp (or auto if its too much trouble), a yellow camel yamaha paint job, nice 18s and a nice sound system. All of which should be easily done for under $4-5k.

Buddha/Tony/Moody - i will be bugging you guys alot for questions regarding this car in the next coming weeks.

The guy said it is an EX - i don't recall seeing a Sun Roof, and since i remember seeing manual windows, i too thought it was a DX, but he said no its an EX. At that point i was busy checking other stuff out.

So what you guys are saying is that if i leave it auto - then the biggest - reliable engine i can get in it as a 1.6 Vtec?

How much do the following parts costs roughly?
1) Engine - H22 n B16-18.
2) 5 Sp M/T


No sunroof = No EX model

or the roof has been replaced.
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grab the VIN#.....and i'll tell you for sure if it's an EX model or not.
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me and buddha done at least 30 swaps in our younger days.......so i'm no stranger when it comes to civics/integras.

why buy an automatic shell and do a manual conversion? when you can just pay a few more bucks for a manual shell. it's not worth the hassle in my opinion. if you were to get the shell for free.....now that's another story.

keep it auto and put a stock 1.6 SOHC motor in it. it'll save you some bucks. just go for all show no go.
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this is your alternative to rewelding the mount for the auto-manual conversion.
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