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Old 08-17-2015, 07:34 PM   #1
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School me about dirtbikes

I'm thinking about buying a dirt bike, but the knowledge bucket is fairly empty.

I'm not thinking a need a high strung MX bike as my intention is really to have a bike to run around a ranch on. I do want something semi-powerful, so not a mini, so to speak.

I know two strokes are lighter, but require more maintenance and technical know how. I know four strokes are heavier and require less frequent maintenance, but aren't as easy to learn how to wrench on oneself.

There's every likelihood the bike might sit for periods in between getting ridden (fuel stabilizer would be used and a trickle charger or the like if it has a battery - I'm thinking i do want electric start).

I'm looking used and fairly inexpensive (within reason, of course).

I want something fun, but that I can grow into. I don't have any real off road experience to mention, but have access to a bobcat and a dozer along with 350+ acres and a green light to carve in anything I want (small track, maybe a dirt oval).

So...learn me something!

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Two strokes are generally less maintenance because there are no frequent motor oil changes and valves to adjust. If you are looking for a cheap bike I would get a two stroke. Cheap four stroke means it has a lot of hours and they are expensive to rebuild. Maybe something like a yz125. $2k will get a decent one.
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Old 08-17-2015, 07:45 PM   #3
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2 strokes cost WAY less to maintain than 4 strokes... But the powerband comes on way sooner, 4 stroke is easier to learn on... Really depends on what your style/skill level are...

I am jealous of your acerage and if you need anyone to ride it for you, let me know!

Still have two dirt bikes to sell, too... Both 2 strokes (250's), KTM and Yamaha..
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Whats ur budget?
If ur looking for a ranch bike thats easy to ride, low maintenance and can take a beating I recommend a TTR225,230,250. I forget what size but look at TTRs, they are tanks.

2 strokes dont like putting around...especially a 125. Its either all or none with a 2 stroke 125
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Whats ur budget?
If ur looking for a ranch bike thats easy to ride, low maintenance and can take a beating I recommend a TTR225,230,250. I forget what size but look at TTRs, they are tanks.
And they have an electric start..
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Interesting. Could a relative novice get themselves up to speed on two-stroke maintenance?
How would a bike like this doing sitting up for while it set-up properly for storage (and what would be the best manner to do that)?

I'm not scared of the two-stroke power band, really. I have more than 10 years on a liter bike, which i know isn't the same, but I am decent with throttle control and whatnot.

Tell me more about your bikes that you might sell. PM if you'd like.

The ranch is west of Killeen, close to 281. Maybe a riding party would be in order.
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Ttr sounds good. There will be putting around and ripping around, but keeping a two stroke stuck in the band could be challenging.
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Interesting. Could a relative novice get themselves up to speed on two-stroke maintenance?
How would a bike like this doing sitting up for while it set-up properly for storage (and what would be the best manner to do that)?

I'm not scared of the two-stroke power band, really. I have more than 10 years on a liter bike, which i know isn't the same, but I am decent with throttle control and whatnot.

Tell me more about your bikes that you might sell. PM if you'd like.

The ranch is west of Killeen, close to 281. Maybe a riding party would be in order.
http://houston.craigslist.org/mcy/5170627834.html

something along the lines at this^

I had a zx14 and a Cr125 and the CR scared the out of me....now I have a 300 two stroke but its a different kind of ride. Its not only about what you can handle, if you buy a CR125 and try to putt around its going to suck. If you buy a TTR and putt around you will have a blast and get use to slipping and sliding in the dirt.

2 stroke maintenance is cleaning the air filter, changing transmission oil and replacing the piston every ~75 hours or so. (Depends on bike)
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If you lived closer I would let you ride my KTM300XC, its obvisouly bigger than a 125 but I thnk its a lot tamer. You could see how the power band feels.
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CRF230F is another good bike

the CRF-F and TTRs might be a bit gutless at first but you can wring the out of them and be fast on a slow bike rather than have a hard time riding on a full blown MX bike.
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I'll be clear - I don't underestimate the bit a powerful two stroke has.

I like what I'm hearing about the ttr and perhaps the crf-f, because putting around and getting used to slipping around, but being able to build up to ripping around sounds great.

That looks like a great CL find. But far for me (Kerrville, and don't have the cash just yet).
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Although I agree a two-stroke is fairly cheap to maintain versus a water cooled 450, an air cooled Honda or Yamaha four stroke is hard to beat. I have a CRF 230f, and it is quite capable as a trail bike and messing around on. I converted mine to a street legal motard with wheels and tires as well. Top speed a little over 70 miles an hour but it's a lot of fun and very easy to maintain. You can find them for under the $2000 in basic trail setup quite easily.
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Pm on the bikes sent, But I think Byrd hit the nail on the head with the CRF 230F...
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Although I agree a two-stroke is fairly cheap to maintain versus a 450, an air cooled Honda or Yamaha four stroke is hard to beat. I have a CRF 230f, and it is quite capable as a trail bike and messing around on. I converted mine to a street legal motard with wheels and tires as well. Top speed a little over 70 miles an hour but it's a lot of fun and very easy to maintain. You can find them for under the $2000 in basic trail setup quite easily.
I'm reading now a out those and the TTRs, and they seem to be up my alley. Putting capability with enough power to be fun (and get my in a little trouble).

Now to stalk CL or wait for someone to have one for sale here.
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, and I sold my Ttr three weeks ago... Man!
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I'm reading now a out those and the TTRs, and they seem to be up my alley. Putting capability with enough power to be fun (and get my in a little trouble).

Now to stalk CL or wait for someone to have one for sale here.
Check with Mr P. He might be selling off his bikes and I know he has a 230 and a 150 version. Basically same bike.

I bought the tard wheels from him.
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Check with Mr P. He might be selling off his bikes and I know he has a 230 and a 150 version. Basically same bike.

I bought the tard wheels from him.
Thanks. I remember him mentioning thinning the herd.
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Crf-f and ttr is what I recommend. I know of a ttr230 that is $1k but will require a new battery and some work to get running.

Also, can we be best friends? I would like to help carve out a dirt oval and maintain it and then of course tear it up.
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I smell a dirt party at Coop's!
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Dibs on the riding party! I've also got an RM125 I'm looking to sell as soon as I put it all back together. I would kill to have access to land/equipment like that!
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