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Old 08-15-2015, 10:35 AM   #1
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Exp wheelier needed

Need help from someone well versed in wheelies. Have been trying to clutch up in 2 to no avail. Not sure if it's tire pressure(not likely) or maybe I am sitting to far forward but back tire just breaks loose. Not trying to wheelie down freeway or anything just want to be mentored at little.
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Old 08-15-2015, 11:00 AM   #2
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i prefer the yut-ugh method personally.
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you're over powering the rear wheel. you need more speed or less throttle when you thump the clutch.

you are just thumping the clutch and not dumping the clutch under WOT, Right?
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Old 08-15-2015, 12:03 PM   #6
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Bigger rear sprocket and throttle that up. Save your clutch...
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1. What kind of bike
2. What kind of tire
3. How fast are you going when you drop the clutch.
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Old 08-15-2015, 12:34 PM   #8
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lets practice! My wheelies are self taught just watching youtube. i think you can find a gsxr 600 specific video if you searched hard enuff
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Old 08-15-2015, 01:00 PM   #9
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Need help from someone well versed in wheelies. Have been trying to clutch up in 2 to no avail. Not sure if it's tire pressure(not likely) or maybe I am sitting to far forward but back tire just breaks loose. Not trying to wheelie down freeway or anything just want to be mentored at little.
How are you "not sure" if it is tire pressure? MAKE sure your tires are properly inflated and in good condition. How old are they.

These things are much more important than wheelies.
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I never heard of using the rear break to get that first "bounce". but this is more towards supermotos but i think this was the best how to video i watched.

and of course ignore the lame-o's above, i never seen you not where all gear, you always check your tire pressure and i know you maintain your bike to a high standard. its time you get those wheelies back
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I never heard of using the rear break to get that first "bounce".
It's a baby step, plus it gets you in the habit of using the rear brake for control.
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Your right, because I've never done wheelies or stopies. Those squid days are behind me. But usually that is how it starts.

Squid-stunter-canyon carver, track, racer, then back to canyon carver. Usually in that order.

But a larger sprocket in the rear will help, period.
Cool story bro. For someone who supposedly been around the block when it comes to riding. You sure do ask questions and respond to questions like you don't know . Starting to see why everybody is getting banned for talking about you.
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He's already putting more power to the wheel then it can handle. So obviously he doesn't need a bigger sprocket. So in his case. He needs to figure out his tire/speed situation.
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I hate when I leave my wheelie sprocket at the house..
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But yep, if he's spinning he doesn't need a different gearing, he needs stickier tires or learn the threshold of which his bike out powers his traction.

Sounds like you are dumping to much and overpowering your grip, take it easier and make sure you hook enough to get the front wheel to come up and THEN open it more. If you are trying to ride twisties during the same ride you will have to find your sweet spot with tires inflated properly. Or go out to a lot and deflate your rear a few pounds to get a wider contact patch, then when you figure it out get your tire pressure back up to riding inflation.

If you are dumping the clutch in second and spinning, try getting up to about 8~9k rpm under less aggressive throttle and then roll off for a split second to compress the front suspension, when you roll back on hard it will torque the chassis up and make it easier for the front to come off the ground, NO CLUTCH btw.
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Bigger rear sprocket and throttle that up. Save your clutch...
Done properly, you're not going to adversely affect a clutch by popping a wheelie. The VAST majority of people who actually know how to ride a wheelie are using their clutch to get there.

You're MUCH more likely to hurt a shift fork by powering up a sport bike than you are to damage a clutch by clutching it.

That said, I found it much easier to learn to find BP by throttling it up and from there I started practicing with the clutch. BUT, I did bend a shift fork chopping the throttle to lift a heavy- bike up in 2nd gear.

By clutching up a wheelie you're going to find the bike at a much lower, more manageable RPM when you get to BP than you would by using the throttle.
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If you really want to get used to the sensation of the front coming up and how to level it out, what I found helpful was rolling in first at about 20 mph then chopping the throttle off, then back on, giving it a healthy, smooth, steady roll. This will load/unload the front and bring it up smoothly.

But once you get to where you are comfortable and can feel BP you should start clutching. And I also found it much easier to control if done standing up on the pegs.
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