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Old 06-30-2007, 05:44 PM   #1
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your links arent working, might be tagged wrong.
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YIKES! glad your ok. how fast were you going? that had to be some scary a$$
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thats some gangster . Time for a tiger tail. I dont think its the arm or pivot arm, those adjustable liks are just pos. thats why the stock links are flat, they take some torque. some billit ones(non turn buckle type) will do th job.
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thats some gangster . Time for a tiger tail. I dont think its the arm or pivot arm, those adjustable liks are just pos. thats why the stock links are flat, they take some torque. some billit ones(non turn buckle type) will do th job.
I am thinking about going with a Pro Link adjustable pivot, then I can use stock links. THe Pro-Link is $350....OUCH.

Not sure if I am going Tiger tail or Motorhead undertail. I really need to keep SOME trunk space....Tiger tail got nothing.
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BTW these 7/16" links I just installed a month ago. I had some 3/8" links on before and I broke one of those also...the first ones lasted 7 yrs, 1.5 yrs with the 600 arm. Here is why they are breaking:

Notice the alignment issues when the stock dogbones are used..
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I had .280" of spacers in the gapped areas to true up the alignment, I guess it didn't work.:confused1


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I am thinking about going with a Pro Link adjustable pivot, then I can use stock links. THe Pro-Link is $350....OUCH.

Not sure if I am going Tiger tail or Motorhead undertail. I really need to keep SOME trunk space....Tiger tail got nothing.
yes, but it is metal, and keeps your stuff from melting(during burn outs too). trim that reflector off that tail light. I used a stock swingarm(long) with tiger tail, and billet lowering links, 63" long, in the mud, no problem. mod your hump for more room.
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did you have the round spacer installed on the center hole:
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Old 06-30-2007, 06:20 PM   #12
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YEah Josh, I had the spacer in the pivot, it fell out during the pic. I think a stock hayabusa arm is the way to go now. I have had a ton of issues with the 600 arm. The reason I went 600 arm is if I extended, de-boxed, and under braced a busa arm it would have cost me $700-800, or I could have got a Trac arm for aobut $1k...not really worth it for only 4" over.

I am hoping the Link Pro adjustable pivot will fix this problem.... I was going around 90-100 when it let go but I was JUST going about 160-170mph 30 seconds before...I was on decel when it blew its wad.
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track dynamics arm ftw. yeah, the 600 arm has a smaller hole, so the bus shock hits, so you use the 600 pivot arm to compensate, you are right, that does change the geometry. Remember you are making 300hp, that ghetto like Jose and Tp use doesnt last. If you are short on parts for the rebuild, I may have some, let me know.
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The 600 arm makes the swingarm angle too shallow.
Even once you correct the link problem, because of the shallow angle, the chain will be pulling the tire away from the pavement, causing it to lose traction.

We've done a lot of testing with drag bike geometry and have learned a bunch in the process. Much of the stuff currently out there actively works against getting you out of the hole and down the track.
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track dynamics arm ftw. yeah, the 600 arm has a smaller hole, so the bus shock hits, so you use the 600 pivot arm to compensate, you are right, that does change the geometry. Remember you are making 300hp, that ghetto like Jose and Tp use doesnt last. If you are short on parts for the rebuild, I may have some, let me know.
You're right, thats what I never liked about the 600 arm is I could never raise the bike back to stock height for twisties, the spring would hit the arm. I had to run it 2" lower to clear the spring. That being said, I am still not sure why the alignment problem between the mount on the arm and the pivot. AND if I use spacers to take up the gaps, and it looks/measures straight, how are the getting off after I ride it?

BTW you know Jose and TP also...LOL:laughing6

I went with the 600 arm so I wouldn't have to de-box a busa arm. I still have my stock arm I could send out and get extended/deboxed and underbraced but... $$$ or I could just put it on and ride it short..its fun that way but 1st, 2nd and some times 3rd gear are useless. With 4" on it, I can stick it in 2nd and it will stay down for the most part.


Patrick I am not following you on the swingarm angle thing...are you talking about the spring/shock because they are running at a different angle then stock or are you talking about the arm itself?

One thing I was thinking was, where the arm goes into the frame and the arm axle goes through the frame, if the arm was not centered in the frame, wouldn't you think that would through the upper mount alignment off? Maybe I need to shim the entire arm over some? My chain alignment is pretty good though. Not much room for shims either, don't remember taking any out.

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glad ur ok dude! im sure ull jump on it and fixe it up even better
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sorry to hear such luck you have. That should put you even with the bike, bike damaged-you unhurt.


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Nah I stayed up.... I rode it dirty all the way through it..
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