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Old 06-27-2007, 06:30 PM   #1
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hi i will be new to dirt bikes and i was looking for one but i dont know if a 125cc will be enough for mountain climbing or i will need bigger engine. also. what brand?

i know i know im looking for good and cheap again lol. but u guys know better

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honda, kawi, yamaha are all good brands for the dirt, but I would start off with a 250 2 stroke if you are just messing around, a 125 would be ideal but you will probably get bored with its power after a whort while. its just like a 250 ninja or any 600cc street bike, you know yourself better. But the 2 strokes are easier and cheaper to maintain. If you are doing trails and so on I would go with a bike specifcally made for that instead of a "race bike" Something like a ttr, klx.
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Mountain climbing? If you wanna go trail riding, this is all you need. the KX front end is an awesome bonus.
http://www.twtex.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18494
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honda, kawi, yamaha are all good brands for the dirt, but I would start off with a 250 2 stroke if you are just messing around, a 125 would be ideal but you will probably get bored with its power after a whort while. its just like a 250 ninja or any 600cc street bike, you know yourself better. But the 2 strokes are easier and cheaper to maintain. If you are doing trails and so on I would go with a bike specifcally made for that instead of a "race bike" Something like a ttr, klx.
isn't it the other way around? 4 strokes should be easier to maintain. (not 100% sure on that)

most "race bikes" usually come 2 strokes....ttr's and klx's are mainly 4 strokes
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2 strokes are a breeze-top end on my 02 cr-125r cost $90.00 for all parts and gaskets and takes about an hour if i take my time and actually use a torque wrench. By comparison valve adj. on my kx-450f took two hrs and 1/2 of that was scratching my head and double checking everything, not to mention a top endo/haul with new valves is well over a grand and thats if you do most of the work yourself and have the valve seats done at a machine shop. It is not like a street bike, we play in the dirt.
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I would like to add though i am refeering to my race bike-if you get a klx, drz or something along those lines they are pretty much bullet proof and require little maint, same goes for Honda xr;
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Mountain climbing? If you wanna go trail riding, this is all you need. the KX front end is an awesome bonus.
http://www.twtex.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18494
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Not sure 'bout the kx-f but... 2-hours to adjust the valves the first time, your gonna get better at it the more you do it, should be done regularly so you get lots of practice.

You'll do 5-10 or more two-stroke top ends to one 4-stroke (depending on maint. etc...) so cost is relative.

Get a 4-stroke 250... any brand, great starter bike & will climb any "mountain" around here.
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isn't it the other way around? 4 strokes should be easier to maintain. (not 100% sure on that)

most "race bikes" usually come 2 strokes....ttr's and klx's are mainly 4 strokes
Maint. Cost on the 2 strokes for top end, bottom end and valve adj. are half the price of that of a 4 stroke. The new craze is the 4-stroke so all new "race bikes" are 4 strokes.

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Have to agree wit this one, this would be perfect, my brother owns a 95 KDX 200 and its a beast!
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Depending on your size, I'd say a 250 4 stroke would keep you happy for awhile. If you're a little bigger than the average bear... bump up to a 450 4 stroke. I'd recommend a 4 stroke just cause it seems a little easier to ride, although it's still got massive power... plus all you have to do is add gas and go! No worrying about mixed gas, and changing the top-end every month.

Just my 2 cents... but thenagain, I just got into dirt recently as well.
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Here's my opinion, which will be highly unpopular...

Start with a 250 4-stroke (very powerful fun bike). the 2-stroke 250 (extremely powerful) is a beast to handle, and you will get hurt if you do not restrain yourself.

Most people stay happy with the 250 4 stroke unless they get really serious about motocross and want to start clearing tripples (in which case you will need the added power of the 450 or the 250 smoker).

I'm no expert by any means, but I do exercise a lot of restrain when riding because I don't like to get hurt. I currently have a 450, and I'm barely using about 30% of the bike's capabilities. A 250 4-stroke would be more than enough for me.
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Maint. Cost on the 2 strokes for top end, bottom end and valve adj. are half the price of that of a 4 stroke. The new craze is the 4-stroke so all new "race bikes" are 4 strokes.



Have to agree wit this one, this would be perfect, my brother owns a 95 KDX 200 and its a beast!
i guess it evens out....as stated, you will use up about 5-10 top ends to one 4 stroke top end.
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guess it will be 4 stroke then. ill start looking soon

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A 4-stroke will be much like a street bike in a sense that they need regular valve adjustments & oil changes, top end work is only needed in event of mechanical failure, 2-strokes wont need valve adj. but will still require trans oil changes & top end replacement is basically a scheduled maintenance item on most. Good luck
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