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Old 07-16-2015, 10:49 PM   #81
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Old 07-16-2015, 10:51 PM   #82
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Got the ktm in the air for the first time tonight. Pretty funny for a big chubby guy.
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Old 07-16-2015, 10:58 PM   #83
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awesome, I havent got mine airborne yet, but I almost went to the ground several times today wrestling that big in the mud lol
I still need to tune my suspension.
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Old 07-16-2015, 11:18 PM   #84
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I don't like the mud or the sand. I stuffed the front in a mud hole riding this evening. Sand is much easier on the ktm than it is on the big adv bike. That's scary as when you hit deep sand on the big bike.
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I don't like the mud or the sand. I stuffed the front in a mud hole riding this evening. Sand is much easier on the ktm than it is on the big adv bike. That's scary as when you hit deep sand on the big bike.
Don't go to SHNF if you don't like mud or sand.
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Curt, I'm curious as to what your main riding discipline will be on this bike?

Why you are choosing Motorcycles Unlimited for suspension. There are tons of places that do off road suspension but only a few of them do great off road suspension work.

I believe you have the new style forks, compression on one side and rebound on the other side correct?

If so, there is a really sweet new hydraulic design (that I can't afford to get) co-developed by CSR Suspension. It is a complete drop in system, all of your factory internals are removed and replaced, the only stock parts used are the inner and outer tubes. Tons of people are having trouble with the new design forks, even after having them worked over by some of the top companies in the US.

The new Hydraulic system isn't on their site yet but, you can call Greg and he can help walk you through it, really nice guy. http://www.csrsuspension.com/

I have one of my 250SX' done at CSR and my other 250SX is done by Kreft moto in N. Austin, both have done excellent work and the only reason for Kreft doing my suspension was a time constraint at the beginning of this year, in order for me to make the GNCC in Florida, I had just under 1 week to send out and get it back, he helped me out with my time crunch and it was set perfect for the deep, soft Florida sands.

If you just want to have suspension set up for your weight, Motorcycles Unlimited would be the perfect place, if you want something truly set up for off road, I would definitely look elsewhere as some of these places offer some really trick, specialized parts and services for your suspension.

In my racing endeavors over the last 4 years, I've seen people who could be much faster with good suspension however, they choose to either stay with stock suspension or, they use X company which really only supplies you with a "suspension job" and not a true set up for your riding discipline. JM Racing IMO is one of those companies, they specialize in MX/SX and sponsor so many racers but, at the end of the day, we aren't hitting big triples and 100' table tops, we're hitting roots, ruts, logs, rocks etc so, we need suspension that works for what we're putting the bike through.

You have suspension on your cars set up for the track, not the street so why set up your off road bike with a street/dirt set up?

I have Huck valves in the forks on both of my bikes, what this does is prevent bottoming out in the event of a G out or if I decide to ride MX and hit the big jumps. Huck valves are quite a bit extra to have added in but, at the end of the day I do train on some MX courses so I felt for my own safety and for the benefit of my increasing skill level, I needed this item. These work well in conjunction with the off road set up, MX suspension is set up much more stiff for obvious reasons.

If you ever get the chance to get your hands on an AMA MX/SX bike (obviously you wont be able to ride it) but, push the bike down to see just how stiff the bike is, most people can't make it move more than an inch just by pushing down on it, it's extremely stiff to compensate for the down forces of a landing.

Sorry for the long post but, I just want to make you aware of some options for suspension and make my own suggestion as to what I believe you should consider at the very least.
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Old 07-17-2015, 10:39 AM   #87
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Carbon, I appreciate the thoughts. Right now I have a bike that is not sprung anywhere near what I need for even the most basic riding.

I bought the bike to do some basic single track in the forest and a few more distant places. I'm never going to ride like you guys nor running at a Motocross track. Too big, too old, too much risk to my career... I can't be laid up in a hospital and do my job.

As I learn more through riding experience, I may have to do the suspension again. I'm fine with that. I consider the Motorcycles Unlimited solution as something that gets me on the right track. I can move to a more optimal solution when and if I get to the point that I need it.

Btw, is there a good off-road suspension place in Houston or do I need to pull the forks and shock and send it off like I did for the gsxr at Ohlins. Btw, I had the best Ohlins guys in the USA do my forks and shock for the gsxr. I hate the results. The Ohlins suspension work done by Motorcycles Unlimited and the way they worked with me was a vastly superior experience.
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until i get the street tires, ill be playing in the mud and jumping all coverts i see

I really could have used those awesome rear fender grips to get her out
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Old 07-17-2015, 10:49 AM   #89
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Ha ha ha. That's the way that bike is supposed to look.

What gearing are you running?
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Carbon, I appreciate the thoughts. Right now I have a bike that is not sprung anywhere near what I need for even the most basic riding.

I bought the bike to do some basic single track in the forest and a few more distant places. I'm never going to ride like you guys nor running at a Motocross track. Too big, too old, too much risk to my career... I can't be laid up in a hospital and do my job.

As I learn more through riding experience, I may have to do the suspension again. I'm fine with that. I consider the Motorcycles Unlimited solution as something that gets me on the right track. I can move to a more optimal solution when and if I get to the point that I need it.

Btw, is there a good off-road suspension place in Houston or do I need to pull the forks and shock and send it off like I did for the gsxr at Ohlins. Btw, I had the best Ohlins guys in the USA do my forks and shock for the gsxr. I hate the results. The Ohlins suspension work done by Motorcycles Unlimited and the way they worked with me was a vastly superior experience.
I wouldn't waste money on Ohlins or any big name suspension guys!!

Factory Connection is in Muskogee, OK and lots of people like there work

I suggest using Kreft in Austin though, you don't have to go all out and get a full build but, he can give you a super solid set up for a decent price, he's (relatively close) and faster than most shops that do this, plus he himself (Adam Krefting) is an A class off-road racer so he knows exactly what to build for you. At least give the guy a call and listen to his opinion of what you need.

BTW, as you'll see below, Kreft does not support me in any way, shape, or form. I believe in the guys product and workmanship.

Outside of that, If you want to stay in Houston, get Motorcycles Unlimited to do it for you.

You could probably do some research on KTMTalk and mostly find out what you need exactly and convey that to Patrick in order to guide him towards the best possible set up for you.

Springs will play the largest role of course but, with that specific fork, I really suggest sending to Kreft.

While I wished Kreft would have given me a discount on my order he didn't but I couldn't be upset and in fact, I rode Rusty's Walnut Creek with Kevin Schwantz earlier this year (what a pleasure that was), he rides a 350 XC-F and he had Kreft do his, also, even as big of a deal as KS is, he paid full price, no discount which I would have expected.

The guy is a solid suspension tuner though.
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I just realized that you have the PDS rear shock instead of linkage which is good but also not great, either way, you won't be needing a linkage protector.

Does your bike have the 4CS forks?? I can't tell, what does your manual call out?

Hopefully not the 4CS forks but I can't find solid info on your bike, the 2016 Six Days 500 for sure has the 4CS (Yuck)!

http://www.tech-care.com/ktm.php

http://ktmtalk.com/showthread.php?50...s-fork-answers

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The 2016 500 exc does not have the 4cs forks.
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The 2016 500 exc does not have the 4cs forks.
Shew, you dodged a sharp bullet there!!

If you'd like more info or have any questions, feel free to pm me and I'll send you my cell number.
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I think Bobby will be doing his suspension work over at Motorcycles Unlimited, he rides that CRF450x that sits out front a lot. I hear he is stupid fast and knows what he is doing for offroad as well as onroad. I have always been happy with his work.
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Got everything installed except for the radiator guards. That's going to be a project. Seat, fairings removed; Gas tank and radiators have to drained and removed as well.
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Sounds fun! Have fun with Ododb tomorrow.
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Got everything installed except for the radiator guards. That's going to be a project. Seat, fairings removed; Gas tank and radiators have to drained and removed as well.
Did you get the bullet proof designs radiator guards.
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Old 07-17-2015, 08:56 PM   #98
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Yes, I believe that's what I got. They are meaty.
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The ride tonight...

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The ride tonight...

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I don't think you have to remove and drain the radiators to install those. Shoot me a pm if you ever want to ride around on the bayou trails around here. I believe you are in the neighborhood next to mine.
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