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Old 07-01-2015, 07:33 PM   #41
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Stick with the level 1 stuff for now. That will be plenty for a while. Then the addiction will set in.
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Old 07-01-2015, 10:12 PM   #42
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how much do you think it is going to cost me in each level, without the trailer and hitch stuff and i am not planning on racing or anything competitive. i just want to be a track day guy.
Budget $1000 for everything, but you'll probably end up with used gear for that price point. That would be my goal.

but, I am the budget racer in the crowd. Everyone also likes to talk that I am doing it all wrong, at the last minute, and in typical "Brawp Fashion". I agree with them 100%.

Reference case: A stock GSXR is fast enough out of the box to put the hurt on 90% - 95% of trackday riders when ridden well. I'm not fast, but definitely not slow, and on a mostly stock GSXR600 (braided lines, slip on, race glass) with stock suspension set for a 150 lb rider (I'm 210 with gear) I was able to run in the 43's at MSRH. Only real upgrade to the bike was a set of R10 takeoff tires. I did not run warmers, just took 2 - 3 laps gradually gaining pace to warm the tires up each session.

MSRH Trackday.

My son raced this same bike in 2012 and 13 and took a few podiums on it in the novice class. Maintenance consisted of a semi-annual oil change, lubing the chain, one clutch, brake pads, occasional fork seals, and a blown motor from overrev in 3 years of racing.

2nd place finish at Nola on GSXR

2nd or 3rd at MSRC

2nd or 3rd at TWS (Texas World Speedway) after losing cylinder #4 on an overrev the last lap

As the smart guys know, a faster bike isn't needed. Titanium and aluminum bits, not needed. Suspension set up, key, even if it is just stock.

So what do you really, really, have to have to be a trackday rider in level 3? It's a pretty short list, and I assume you have some of this already...

LIFE INSURANCE

DISABILITY INSURANCE

MEDICAL INSURANCE

FULL DISCLOSURE TO FAMILY

then...

1. Leathers., one piece
2. Boots
3. Gloves
4. Best helmet you can afford
5. Back protector
6. Cool vent under armor shirt and underwear
7. Blue tape (for taping over lights)
8. Lots of water
9. Tools
10. RACE TIRES / TAKEOFFS
11. Suspension "setup" $40 - 50 by SCRC John, P1 Brandon, Roger Albert, or Motorcycles Unlimited for your weight and ability
12. MAYBE braided brake lines depending on bike
13. Gas can
14. MAYBE front and rear stands, buy used or Cycle Gear cheapies.


Everything else is optional.
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Old 07-01-2015, 10:20 PM   #43
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Steering damper is on the list cause the 09' R6 doesn't even have a stock one does it? If not, mucho importante!!! R6 racer is right on this one. A stock R6 on race rubber will try to toss you off at high speed. Budget $250 for a used one.
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So what do you really, really, have to have to be a trackday rider in level 3? It's a pretty short list, and I assume you have some of this already...

LIFE INSURANCE

DISABILITY INSURANCE

MEDICAL INSURANCE

FULL DISCLOSURE TO FAMILY
I would also add that you need enough set aside for your (more than likely) high deductible medical insurance plan.

Also, after suspension setup, I also recommend SS lines and good brake fluid and pads.

Don't fart around with all the engine mod stuff; not needed and causes more headaches than not. Most bikes are far more capable in stock form than 90 percent of the riders that think they are riding them at their limit.

If your suspension (even stock with just a possible spring change) is set, brakes are good for hard, repeated use, and you have decent tires, you will be good to go.

Also.

Most street tires are perfectly fine for novice/beginner groups. I'm talking about "fresh tires" not four year old tires that are hard as rocks.

Lastly - Focus on being COMFORTABLE and in CONTROL of you bike to start out with. As you get faster, you will naturally start to adjust and learn all the other stuff.

Don't worry about looking like Rossi for the photos, focus on being in control and learning your bike's capabilities.

That will get you through beginner to intermediate.
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Old 07-02-2015, 07:54 AM   #45
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i can also sell you moto insurance for track use
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Old 07-02-2015, 12:31 PM   #46
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I'd say safety wiring the oil drain plug and oil filter are absolute must haves.

Its cheap, easy, and prevents serious physical and/or financial injury to you and everyone else riding the track.
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i can also sell you moto insurance for track use
Is it expensive?
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Is it expensive?
i can run you a quote. Might be around 1k a year, covers your bike with add ons and 1,500 in gear. Just wont cover racing, only track days
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Old 07-02-2015, 02:14 PM   #49
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i can run you a quote. Might be around 1k a year, covers your bike with add ons and 1,500 in gear. Just wont cover racing, only track days
They should really consider covering more in gear. I'd max it out before I even got to my leather suit. Then my suit would max it out again. Oh well, for the amount I crash it's probably not worth it.
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Old 07-02-2015, 02:16 PM   #50
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thats why they have that limit. they would go broke replacing your gear all the time.

This is if you total a bike. Especially if it was something new, they paid out a panigale last year that was totaled.
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i'd stay starting out in level 1: go ahead and get the proper gear. it's a good investment. full leather suit, good boots, good gloves, back protector (optional) and get suspension set up by Roger. oh and a gas can (like from VP Fuels)

levels 1 and 2, you don't need anything... except maybe steel braided brake lines. that's it.

I rode level 1 and 2 with a completely stock bike and Q2's. I didn't start riding with race tires/take-offs until i was one of the faster lvl 2 rider's...

when you transition to race tires/take-offs ($100 a set--lasts 3 track days), you need front and rear stands ($200-one time cost), tire warmers ($300-one time cost), and a generator ($price varies-one time cost)

you don't need a fancy bike to be fast.

and you definitely don't need a full exhaust until you're competing for the #1 in the CMRA and need those extra 6 horsepower... lol.

but what do i know... i rode a janky bike all the way til lvl 3 with NO suspension set up and just some race take-offs and tire warmers. (and steel braided brake lines)

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Thanks for all your great advice guys, i guess i'll just focus my time and money on trackdays, tires and a steering damper. i'm new to the addiction so any advice is helpful especially when it comes to budgeting money into this sport, because it’s one expensive sport/hobby we are in.
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oh trailer and hitch. just get a hitch installed on your car. and rent a uhaul trailer (4x7) for just $15 a day. that's what I did for a while before i got a kendon.
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Or harbor freight, wait for the 50% discounts online, then get one for $144 like I did.
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Old 07-06-2015, 09:02 PM   #56
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Buy a used HF one. I busted many knuckles assembling that sucker
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