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Old 06-29-2015, 11:48 AM   #1
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Level 1, 2 & 3 Track Day Equipment

So as a level 1 rider what equipment is a must have for level 2, and also for level 3. I just want to plan things out and save up money for the things I should get to become faster (besides track day seat time), or even stumble on a good deal. What should I be looking for? i have a stock r6 with a exhaust slip on.
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the only difference is a back protector (required only by some TD orgs)
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i mean like tire warmers, steering damp, full exhaust etc.
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i mean like tire warmers, steering damp, full exhaust etc.
None of that is required. Does it help? Sure but in the end just go out there and have fun. If you find yourself having trouble keeping pace in lvl 2 drop down to 1 (if there is space). Lvl 2 has a pretty wide range of riders which can put you in some sticky situations if not careful. Stay alert and hydrated, have fun, and enjoy the day.
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Answering in the order you asked, openess to learn, skills, then more skills/. A stock R6 is more than plenty for any new track day rider. Just meet the minimum requirements, have an open mind, and have fun. The track day orgs we have around here will take care of you.

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So as a level 1 rider what equipment is a must have for level 2, and also for level 3. I just want to plan things out and save up money for the things I should get to become faster (besides track day seat time), or even stumble on a good deal. What should I be looking for? i have a stock r6 with a exhaust slip on.
All you need to move up is skills. When you acquire those skills you will also answer all of your questions of what you will need equipment wise. I saw a stock r6 run a 56 on the first lap of the race at Nola which is faster than a lot of novice racers went. So no need to spend money on anything besides the proper safety gear, tires and track time.
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It's an interesting question. From a safety perspective, the rules are relatively consistent across the orgs. Full leathers, gloves, boots.

On the equipment side, the progression I've seen is something like this:

Level 1
-stock suspension set up for rider weight
-street/track tires for example the Bridgestone BT003 Ride Smart (racing/street)
-one piece leathers (rentals are available)
-riding boots like sidi's
-gauntlet gloves
-good brake fluid (motul 600, Castrol SRF)

Level 2
-custom ECU (Power Commander) and tune
-full exhaust (headers + slip on)
-conversion from antifreeze to non glycol based coolant
-steering damper
-race tires (but not slicks)
-warmers
-stands
-stainless brake lines
-racing brake pads (vesrah xx or equivalent)
-quick turn throttle
-race plastics
-open trailer

Level 3 / Racers
-full custom suspension
-chain / sprocket
-Slicks
-fuel
-safety wired bike
-tools and spares
-multiple sets of wheels
-slipper clutch
-migration from open trailer to enclosed trailer

Track guys and racers... What else?

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So as a level 1 rider what equipment is a must have for level 2, and also for level 3. I just want to plan things out and save up money for the things I should get to become faster (besides track day seat time), or even stumble on a good deal. What should I be looking for? i have a stock r6 with a exhaust slip on.

Dont' take anything to track you are not prepared to set on fire and deal with the consequence of returning home with a heap of useless parts.

Spend your money on a quality well fitting Helmet. It won't protect you if it doesn't fit right. Alot of guys are ridding around with a helmet way too big.

Rent some leathers and do your first trackday in level on to see if you like it.
( you will) NOW prepare to go broke.

BUY more trackdays and fresh tires. Don't buy stuff until you find yourself going through a corner on line and thinking to yourself:
A) I need to change _______ because it felt sketchy or if I push any harder it may not be safe
or
B) man this/these ________________ sure is/are uncomfortable
or
C)I have swapped passes with that guy with the liter bike every single corner and straight, I need more power

and avoid
D) Some new ________________ would make the bike look/sound COOL
and
E) I have know idea what _________________ actually does or how to use it but all the fast guys have one so I got one too.

Lvl 2 will require you to have a full stand alone back protector.

The most important thing to spend your money on is
The RIDER... get some instruction. Its worth it!
After that suspension, then tires, then power.
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Old 06-29-2015, 01:30 PM   #11
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Old 06-29-2015, 01:31 PM   #12
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So as a level 1 rider what equipment is a must have for level 2, and also for level 3. I just want to plan things out and save up money for the things I should get to become faster (besides track day seat time), or even stumble on a good deal. What should I be looking for? i have a stock r6 with a exhaust slip on.
bike wise you want to have a steering damper, q3's, s20's will do for level 2. superbike slicks pro's from pirellis would also be good for you. change out the coolant with water wetter. get some NRC engine cover replacements, get a better double bubble windscreen as well.

for the track, chair, cooler, fan, tools, stands are good to have.

gear wise, full leather suit, full race boots, full race gaunlet gloves, good helmet, back protector, underarmour pants/full sleeve shirt

other things you want to be on the lookout for a good deal are going to be rearsets, race bodywork a credit card with no limits because you ride without no limits, clip ons, exhaust slider, suspension -- triple clicker rear shock from ohlins or penske, front fork cartridges from ohlins or ak20s (suspension stuff call raceworx before buying anything even used so you can make sure you're getting the right stuff) better race tires, tire warmers, neck brace, gopro is nice to have, a pit bike, a kendon trailer if you cant get a toy hauler or enclosed trailer, full exhaust, bazzaz fuel/air bazzaz quickshifter, captive spacers, renthal grips, vesrah race brake pads, steel braided lines, 520 conversion on the chain/sprockets (15/45), etc

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Updating to include sliders and case covers....

It's an interesting question. From a safety perspective, the rules are relatively consistent across the orgs. Full leathers, gloves, boots.

On the equipment side, the progression I've seen is something like this:

Level 1
-stock suspension set up for rider weight
-frame sliders
-street/track tires for example the Bridgestone BT003 Ride Smart (racing/street)
-one piece leathers (rentals are available)
-riding boots like sidi's
-gauntlet gloves
-good brake fluid (motul 600, Castrol SRF)

Level 2
-custom ECU (Power Commander) and tune
-full exhaust (headers + slip on)
-conversion from antifreeze to non glycol based coolant
-steering damper
-race tires (but not slicks)
-warmers
-stands
-stainless brake lines
-racing brake pads (vesrah xx or equivalent)
-quick turn throttle
-rear sets
-race plastics
-open trailer

Level 3 / Racers
-full custom suspension
-chain / sprocket
-Slicks
-fuel
-safety wired bike
-tools and spares
-multiple sets of wheels
-slipper clutch
-case covers
-migration from open trailer to enclosed trailer

Track guys and racers... What else?
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Although none of that is really required.
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Steering damper should be at the top as well as a good set of track day tires, the Pirelli Superbike Pro's are a good track day tire. As you get faster though you will want to get a good race tire and tire warmers.

Suspension wise, Rear shock first and deal with the forks last. You can buy Ak20's or Ktech makes drop in replacement valves that are pretty good for the price.

I would replace the coolant with water wetter, safety wire the oil drain plug and secure the oil filter. And invest in a good set of case savers.

And definitely invest in good protective gear, back and chest protection, good brand of leathers and a good Helmet.
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how about lap timers or gps data logges? i did a little bit of research and i read that some rider get so fixated on fast lap times that they forget everything else and go out all out and crash. but there are time where i felt really good in a session and i felt fast and i wanted to know how if it was and compare. but i'm getting better thats for sure. is it a good idea to buy a laptimer early on since i want to track my progess anyways.

i could see how a lap timer can your day and makes all kinds of mistake but at the same time it can give you the satisfacition of a good lap and reinforce the things you did well
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You don't "NEED" any of the above.

I ride a fully stock bike in L2 and have plenty of fun with it. Only recommendation is tires. Do change stock for some more track oriented to gain on grip.

Everything else is a plus but not needed. I don't even use tire warmers. Did track this past weekend and before I completed the first lap the tires were already on fire !! You just need to know you cant go full blast on the first 5 corners ... that's all.
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how about lap timers or gps data logges? i did a little bit of research and i read that some rider get so fixated on fast lap times that they forget everything else and go out all out and crash. but there are time where i felt really good in a session and i felt fast and i wanted to know how if it was and compare. but i'm getting better thats for sure. is it a good idea to buy a laptimer early on since i want to track my progess anyways.
Don't worry about lap times, learn the race line at each track you go to and focus on hitting all the apex's. If you find yourself blowing the line and not hitting the apex's, then slow down and keep working until you can turn good laps without making any mistakes. Use the entire day to build your speed up, walk your braking markers in a little bit each session. As well as getting on the throttle little quicker each session. In other words don't try to make huge leaps each lap, build up to it, slowly.
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You don't "NEED" any of the above.

I ride a fully stock bike in L2 and have plenty of fun with it. Only recommendation is tires. Do change stock for some more track oriented to gain on grip.

Everything else is a plus but not needed. I don't even use tire warmers. Did track this past weekend and before I completed the first lap the tires were already on fire !! You just need to know you cant go full blast on the first 5 corners ... that's all.
I would say a steering damper is a MUST HAVE, I've seen riders crash from a tank slapper.
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