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Old 06-15-2015, 03:37 PM   #41
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Right...I thought MSF was the basics
It's not the basics. They are not like a parent that will hold your seat to help you keep your balance till you know how to do it on your own.

They go through the book you receive at the DMV and highlight on the critical areas while giving you pointers on things not mentioned in the booklet. You watch videos that run through the same things and then you get some actual ride time in under the supervision of a certified instructor. They will not slow down much for you if you are struggling to ride the bikes they provide. they will simply make you take the class again if they believe you are not ready for the roads.

Like I said, 2 days is not much time to learn a whole lot in my opinion and it is a really important class with valuable information... but only to someone who already knows the basics, otherwise, they will focus more on trying to keep up rather than paying attention to all the pointers. I know you spend a great deal of time learning clutch techniques, pulling & leaning the bike from side-to-side, etc., but still IMO I think some out-of-class exposure on the dirt will help significantly to the OP if given the chance.
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It's not the basics. They are not like a parent that will hold your seat to help you keep your balance till you know how to do it on your own.

They go through the book you receive at the DMV and highlight on the critical areas while giving you pointers on things not mentioned in the booklet. You watch videos that run through the same things and then you get some actual ride time in under the supervision of a certified instructor. They will not slow down much for you if you are struggling to ride the bikes they provide. they will simply make you take the class again if they believe you are not ready for the roads.

Like I said, 2 days is not much time to learn a whole lot in my opinion and it is a really important class with valuable information... but only to someone who already knows the basics, otherwise, they will focus more on trying to keep up rather than paying attention to all the pointers. I know you spend a great deal of time learning clutch techniques, pulling & leaning the bike from side-to-side, etc., but still IMO I think some out-of-class exposure on the dirt will help significantly to the OP if given the chance.
Look man just let her borrow your training wheels that way she won't scratch up her new "Harley" , and op make sure to follow the number one rule when it comes to Harley's ..... It turned on , now let me rev it to redline a few times to make sure everybody knows I ride a Harley
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Look man just let her borrow your training wheels that way she won't scratch up her new "Harley" , and op make sure to follow the number one rule when it comes to Harley's ..... It turned on , now let me rev it to redline a few times to make sure everybody knows I ride a Harley
I'll let her borrow the training wheels your mom gave me and maybe the knee pads she left at my house and OP, don't listen to Nesto... he just wants you to rev it around him because it makes his ring vibrate and it makes him thrash around violently!
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I'll let her borrow the training wheels your mom gave me and maybe the knee pads she left at my house and OP, don't listen to Nesto... he just wants you to rev it around him because it makes his ring vibrate and it makes him thrash around violently!
She did say your was weak and needed the training wheels to help keep your balance while she hit you with the strap on from behind , and yes once my ring vibrates it drives me wild and I up .... I'm like a bull in a china shop
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I took a class that allowed us to rent a bike. Can I say Awesome Cycles on here?

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I disagree. MSF has got to be to quickest and most effective way to get started riding ESPECIALLY if you have no experience.

That doesn't mean get the certificate and then hop on I-10. That means continue practicing in parking lots, then neighborhoods, then backroads, ect.

OP- I would take the MSF class and if you are comfortable riding those bikes, go ahead and try riding the harley.

Once you get your license, get some cones or tennis and set the MSF course up in a parking lot. If you aren't comfortable doing the MSF course on the harley after you completed it on the smaller bike, you may want to think about selling and starting smaller before you go out on the roads.
Uh, that's more than 16 hours, isn't it? Until you can subconsciously operate a motorcycle like most operate a car, you're not ready for any road sharing.

If you have zero motorcycle experience, MSF is just the first step in a long journey
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I don't know how anyone of us ever learned to ride before the MSF. It's a wonder that we survived at all.
My MSF class was the first time I had ever touched a motorcycle, or attempted to operate a manual transmission of any kind. I had great instructors who actually cared, I did well in the course, and passed the test with the highest score in the class (zero deductions). Two weeks later, I bought a Ninja 250 and rode it home across Baton Rouge at rushhour without incident.

Of course, MSF is not enough to really start building muscle memory or anything like that, but I felt that it left me way more prepared than if I had tried to get a buddy to help me or something. You have to start somewhere.

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My MSF class was the first time I had ever touched a motorcycle, or attempted to operate a manual transmission of any kind. I had great instructors who actually cared, I did well in the course, and passed the test with the highest score in the class (zero deductions). Two weeks later, I bought a Ninja 250 and rode it home across across Baton Rouge at rushhour without incident.

Of course, MSF is not enough to really start building muscle memory or anything like that, but I felt that it left me way more prepared than if I had tried to get a buddy to help me or something. You have to start somewhere.
My experience was pretty much the same as yours. Yeah I could have learned how to easily without the class, but the class definitely saved me a lot of time, effort, frustration and who knows, maybe even a wreck.

Seems like a lot of people who hate on the class have either never taken it, or they already had a lot of experience before they took it and are butthurt because they had to sit through it.
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I took it a while back.. but I ride dirt.. one of the first things my instructor told me was "stop grabbing the throttle with three fingers and get your other two fingers off the brake".. man, that is a hard habit to knock... So I guess, if you're just going to ride street, having them teach you the basics first might be better, so you don't develop habits they are trying to break.
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I took it a while back.. but I ride dirt.. one of the first things my instructor told me was "stop grabbing the throttle with three fingers and get your other two fingers off the brake".. man, that is a hard habit to knock... So I guess, if you're just going to ride street, having them teach you the basics first might be better, so you don't develop habits they are trying to break.
I kind of don't agree with the whole "always 4 fingers on the brake" thing they teach. I took their word at face value, which turned out to really be a bad habit in my opinion. When you eventually want to brake and downshift at the same time, you have to relearn.
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Yeah i dont agree with that one either. I can put more than enough stopping force at legal speeds with just two fingers...but ithink they teach that because some bikes have brakes. Ive ridden a few cruisers that took all four fingers if i was trying to stop fast.
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Yeah i dont agree with that one either. I can put more than enough stopping force at legal speeds with just two fingers...but ithink they teach that because some bikes have brakes. Ive ridden a few cruisers that took all four fingers if i was trying to stop fast.
That's the only way I ride on the track (1 or 2 finger braking);I need my other fingers to hold on to the handle bar.. lol.. I also sometimes have to brake in corners and that is frowned upon in the class too.. there are slight differences..
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