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Old 06-12-2015, 10:40 AM   #1
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New to the forum and bikes

Just bought my first motorcycle yesterday!!
Found this forum a while back, but didnt wanted to join until i had a bike. Looking forward to meeting new people and make friends, i can ride with since none of my friends have bikes. And also for advice on everything related to bikes. Lol
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Old 06-12-2015, 10:50 AM   #2
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Welcome to the two wheel life!
since you're new to bikes have you done any safety courses?
I would highly recommend a beginner safety course, especially with the reckless Houston drivers you will have to deal with
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Old 06-12-2015, 10:53 AM   #3
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^^^ ditto

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Old 06-12-2015, 10:55 AM   #4
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I haven't yet. But I'm gonna have to look into that. Yesterday was actually my first time riding a bike. It was scary having to take it from 45 & telephone to the east side where i live.
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I've done several safety courses at awesome cycles in north Houston, it'll be a bit of a drive for you if you're on the east side but they have an excellent staff with lots of experience.
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I haven't yet. But I'm gonna have to look into that. Yesterday was actually my first time riding a bike. It was scary having to take it from 45 & telephone to the east side where i live.
Oh man. I can't recommend enough taking an MSF class before you really do anything else on the bike. A 600RR on I45 for your first time ever touching a bike? Yikes!
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+1 for the MSF course, awesome cycles is great, I had a great time when I did mine there, and you don't have to use your own bike which is great, chances are you will drop it when learning to turn in small spaces, hopefully you don't, and because of that buy frame sliders for your bike if you haven't ASAP
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Old 06-13-2015, 09:00 AM   #12
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Thanks for the welcoming guys.
What are frame sliders for? I need to have it lower can anyone give me advice on that?
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Frame sliders will help protect the fairings if you drop the bike. if youre looking to get it lower you will need a lowering link for the rear, you can find them on ebay for pretty cheap, and you can drop the front through the forks in the triple. for more specific cbr tech stuff you can always refer to cbrforum.com or 600rr.net if you cant find it on here, lot of helpfull people on both sites and a few threads already devoted to the subject
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Thanks for the welcoming guys.
What are frame sliders for? I need to have it lower can anyone give me advice on that?
they sell them for your front axle, rear axle and frame, worth every penny in my opinion.

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/w...ame-slider-kit

you don't have to buy those exact ones, shop around and see which ones you like the best.
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Thanks for the welcoming guys.
What are frame sliders for? I need to have it lower can anyone give me advice on that?
Frame sliders look like this. Basically a plastic sliding puck that attaches to your frame. In the event that you fall and the bike is sliding, that should be one of the main things contacting the ground and should take a lot of the damage. In a decent slide, they'll actually wear down like an inch or so, similar to the brake material on rollerskates.

In a lowside crash, you really just want the bike to stay oriented as it is, and slide to a stop. The worst thing is for something on the bike to catch on the ground or something, and cause it to flip.

On the street though, my personal experience is that they can be good or bad. The street is not always the ideal conditions of the track. I have actually seen instances where the frame sliders themselves caught on the uneven surface of the ground (or a curb or something). Hard to say, but it might have actually done more damage, because you're putting all that force/torque right on one spot of your frame. And most frame sliders are pretty long, so its got a decent amount of leverage that it wouldn't normally have.

Your mileage may vary. But don't buy them thinking that they'll keep your fairings 100% scuff free if you drop the bike. That's not what they are there for. They are an attempt to limit the damage to the whole bike.

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I need to have it lower can anyone give me advice on that?
Before you lower a bike, just know that you don't want to slam it to the ground as far as you can. Try to do just enough where you can comfortably handle the bike. Sportbikes have very specific geometry for the steering and suspension which is very different from cars. Go too far, and that effortless, nimble feeling of your bike will go away. It'll feel like it's fighting back against you when you try to make a turn, which is very unsettling.

To lower the front, you'll just need to loosen the bolts where the triple clamps attach to the fork legs. Use a rubber mallet to tap on the triple clamp, so the fork legs slide UP further in the clamps. Use some calipers or a gauge to make sure the exact same amount of fork is sticking up on BOTH sides. We're talking about a few mm at a time.

For the rear, you'll need to replace this link bar that you can find on the bottom of your bike, attached to the swingarm. You can get new ones that have holes in different spots, but I highly recommend the threaded ones if you can (like shown below). That way its adjustable, and you can actually set it back to stock height without having to change the link again. When you go to sell the bike, having it lowered will actually be a negative to a lot of buyers, because they know they'll have to bring it to a shop to get it put back. The threaded one will mitigate that.

To change out the link, you'll actually need to hold the bike up from the frame, not just using a rear stand. Likely will have to take it to a shop. I've done it in the past by attaching ratchet straps to the garage ceiling and putting the hooks on the frame under the tail.

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Actually, I found a video of a friend of mine doing a demo of a lowering link install. He's doing it with a jack under the engine instead of hanging it.

Reminds me too, if you go very far in lowering, you'll need a shorter kickstand. The stock length will cause your bike to be almost upright on the kickstand, which isn't very stable.

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Wh!plash definitely did a lot better of a job explaining it than i did, the ratchet straps in the ceiling is a great technique for getting your bike off the ground, ive used it a couple times before, it was easy for me because i had all the plastics off while doing it so nothing got in the way of the straps, you might just want to take it to a shop, up to you
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Wh!plash definitely did a lot better of a job explaining it than i did, the ratchet straps in the ceiling is a great technique for getting your bike off the ground, ive used it a couple times before, it was easy for me because i had all the plastics off while doing it so nothing got in the way of the straps, you might just want to take it to a shop, up to you
Thanks!

Actually there's another hack that you can use if you don't want to attach ratchet straps to the ceiling. If you can find two ladders the same size, put them on either side of the bike. Then use a piece of 2x6 or something across them, and put the straps over that. It's a hack, but I've done it.

That video I linked actually makes me think twice about bothering with the straps though. Rick is the most mechanically-inclined guy I know by a long shot. Doing it with a jack is probably good to go.
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im at work so i cant really hear what hes saying, did he put the jack on the oil pan? i always feared the weight of the bike resting on the oil pan would crush it or puncture it
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