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Old 06-11-2015, 01:38 PM   #1
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New $184,000 Honda with 101hp, sounds legit

I'm sure some very easy after purchase tinkering will open it up but it is funny that it has less hp from the factory than a 10 yr old cbr600.

http://rc213v-s.com
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I'm new here... Any particular reason why this costs ~10x more than the R1M?

Both are close to the MotoGP versions of the bike right?
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Look at the specifications for the United States.
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Great, another bike people can't use more than 60% of it's potential...
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"To meet these goals as well as MotoGP regulations, we adopted a 1,000cc, 90 V4 engine."

Where are you getting the 101hp claim?

Seems like a 1000cc would make close to 170-190ish hp?
http://rc213v-s.com/spec/spec_us.html usa spec

http://rc213v-s.com/spec/spec_eu.html euro spec
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I'm new here... Any particular reason why this costs ~10x more than the R1M?

Both are close to the MotoGP versions of the bike right?
R1m isn't close to motogp versions.

The rc213v-s has the same chassis, swingarm and a few other bits as Marc Marquez. The suspension is motogp spec and the motor is very close to the motogp bike.
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R1m isn't close to motogp versions.

The rc213v-s has the same chassis, swingarm and a few other bits as Marc Marquez. The suspension is motogp spec and the motor is very close to the motogp bike.
Yep. The front forks on that bike cost more than a brand new CBR1000RR.
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There is a "Sportskit" that bring it up to 211hp for Europe. That sounds more like it.
Yeah I think the 101hp is emissions and legality thing. Still hilarious just looking at the stats from the factory.
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Why can't Honda just make a road-going V-4 SS that's affordable to the average Joe?
Who needs this ?
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Why can't Honda just make a road-going V-4 SS that's affordable to the average Joe?
Who needs this ?
When has motorcycling been about need? No one needs a motorcycle at all.

But I agree the cbr1000 should be a v4.
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Who isn't praying for a 1000cc v4 honda for <$15k???

In the meantime.... dat Tuono 1100 is looking pretty righteous
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Who isn't praying for a 1000cc v4 honda for <$15k???

In the meantime.... dat Tuono 1100 is looking pretty righteous
Ha! I was thinking exacting the same!

For just around $15K you get a nice V4 engine and something much better oriented for the street. If I get rid of the HD will be for this bike:

http://apriliausa.com/motorcycles/tu...-aprc-abs.html
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Yeah I think the 101hp is emissions and legality thing.
Maybe it was a typo? 201 seems like a more realistic number
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I'm new here... Any particular reason why this costs ~10x more than the R1M?

Both are close to the MotoGP versions of the bike right?
From what I understand, the R1M is somewhat close to a Superstock bike, and nowhere close to an R1 Superbike. And MotoGP is another world, entirely.
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Duplicate post.

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Both are close to the MotoGP versions of the bike right?
So yeah, I hear its going racing in the Superstock class. But to understand the picture, you have to kind of understand how World Superbike works. They have homologation rules in place, where basically you can only make certain modifications to the bike, but it has to be based on a bike that you actually sell. So the manufacturers will make a bike way higher than the typical spec, and price it accordingly. As long as they sell enough units to meet the regulations to be able to race it, they are good (even if they sell those few units at a loss). This is where bikes like the R-model Ducatis and such come from. I'm understanding that the R1M was made specifically with WSBK in mind.

MotoGP is basically open-class (although they keep making more general rules and restrictions). The idea is that MotoGP should be a showcase of pure engineering willpower. These bikes are so far above what any of us could buy or assemble, its just insane. They'll spend zillions of dollars for that last 0.000001% of performance. Like an F-22 fighter, its likely that most of us mere mortals will never be able to experience one of these machines (not that we are good enough to use them anyhow). But that's why its so exciting when they release something actually close to or based off a MotoGP machine. If you're new to bikes, go look up the Desmosedici D16RR.
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