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Old 06-22-2007, 03:47 PM   #41
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Actually, it's much smoother coming in late from high in the banking...

Try it Monday at a reduced pace, you'll see what I mean. It's a much better line.

Better still, watch Gabe McLendon go through there from the end of hot pit. You'll see it that way.

Yes though, steering damper is a good thing...
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Old 06-22-2007, 03:52 PM   #42
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Old 06-22-2007, 04:17 PM   #43
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check ufo34's video, after lap 2 you can see his line pretty well in turn 1. He was turning inside the yellow after number 3, then staying inside he turns into 2 right before the end of the yellow line.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3090ZvPlI2s
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Old 06-22-2007, 04:21 PM   #44
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pff my i make two down shifts in one and then up shift coming out of two
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check ufo34's video, after lap 2 you can see his line pretty well in turn 1. He was turning inside the yellow after number 3, then staying inside he turns into 2 right before the end of the yellow line.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3090ZvPlI2s
you:confused1 me with the short track video
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I dont know who these guys are but they seem to have the right idea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE4CKWmqUjM

running under 2 mins with engine hickups
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Old 06-22-2007, 04:55 PM   #47
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dude dont worry about reference points. just follow someone fast through there and watch were he goes
IMO... not always the best thing, cause I've seen alot of people take f'ed up lines through T1 & T2.
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Old 06-22-2007, 05:12 PM   #48
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I dont know who these guys are but they seem to have the right idea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE4CKWmqUjM

running under 2 mins with engine hickups
Good find, however what up with the MUSIC!! I rather hear the gear changes than that
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Old 06-22-2007, 06:12 PM   #49
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IMO... not always the best thing, cause I've seen alot of people take f'ed up lines through T1 & T2.
The problem with me following someone at a faster pace is that after reaching a certain speed, I don't even look at the rider in front of me anymore. There have been times on SMRs where the rider who was riding in front of told me later how they had actually hit the grass at some point or majorly crossed the yellow line and ask if that had messed me up and I honestly had to state that I hadn't even noticed that. :laughing6

When I go into a turn, I look through the turn and pick a point. Now, I can see that in TMGP racing that may mess me up a bit because if someone slides across the pavement in front of me, I should better notice that, hm? :laughing6

Either way, for T1 and T2 at TWS (Texas World Speedway), I think there are some good ideas that svmike received and I hope I can benefit from them myself soon... That turn is just a pain. :confused1
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2 Posts 37 & 38 your reference points will be completely different depending on your style and your lap times. they are different for almost everybody. for me in turn 1 & 2.... i hug the wall till the last second and dive down holding the throttle all the way through the transition. i never touch the brake through the turns and only let the engine slow me down. im back the gas before 2. i pick my reference point for my apex depending on what anlge and how fast i hit the closing radius. turn 2 is part of a huge closing radius turn with many lines through it.

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Old 06-22-2007, 08:34 PM   #53
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Old 06-22-2007, 08:38 PM   #54
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I think they're just slow


anyway, through T1 I normally start come in on the inside and drift out to get my bike as straight up as possible(Ive looked at my speedo at T1 several times and it reads on average about 110mph). I dont get on the brakes till the transition and I stay on the inside of the yellow line and turn into T2 about 6-8 feet from the end of the yellow line(This turn in depends on how fast you're going through there). I normally grab 2 downshifts.

With an SV you'll probably definitely move these markers around but you just need to find something and play around with it lap after lap.
+1.......... After listening to Ty the last TD, coming into T1 low is the smoothest way to go, and you can carry a lot of speed thru there without an issue.

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"It becomes a lot easier when you figure out that you can carry twice or three times as much speed. I know that sounds backwards, but it really is easier the faster you goooooooo!!!!!!!" - vfracer r

true if you know where you're at/going hahaha. Takes FOREVER to get through that section at my pace.

As for going in low or high, I prefer the high line and holding out till after the 1 marker though the transition is fackin scary at 115mph(must tape speedo). I'm also slowing when I make the transition which may not be helping me. I don't use brakes during that time but I do roll of the throttle when I initiate the turn off the banking. I don't have a steering damper so I don't know if I should keep WOT. Would I be okay or am I putting myself at risk going WOT? The bike does have Racetech fork internals (thanks Motorcycles Unlimited) and a gsxr rear shock. Tires = pilot power

The problem I have with following somebody is that I can't remember the line without reference points. As mentioned earlier, I followed Suzanne and still can't figure it out. I know a huge part of the problem is mind over matter which is why the speedo is getting a tape job next time. If Suzanne is there I'll bug her for some more pointers.

Moody, I'm riding in c group again. Is EVERYBODY gonna be at the big toy hauler again? I'll be heading up monday morning. See you guys there.
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That is true to a point, but it's not the fastest smooth way through there, and it's not the line that Ty takes when he's racing...
from the last race i saw at TWS (Texas World Speedway)....looks like everyone hugs the outside wall and dive's down at the last second, including Ty.

so yeah, i'm gonna have to agree with Tom and say the fastest line would be to dive down and fly smooth.
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That is true to a point, but it's not the fastest smooth way through there, and it's not the line that Ty takes when he's racing...
Maybe I misunderstood him........
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Thanks for the pointers everybody. I did much better this time. Taping over the speedo did wonders. I just about tapped 5th gear by the end of the big straight and started to roll off throttle some at the 2 marker, dropping off at about the 1 marker. Very smooth transition while still maintaining throttle(3/4 maybe). Using the end of the yellow line as a turn in pt helped sooooo much. I still have a lot to work on but the help, helped!
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"if you brake or slow down too much prior to the transition, it is more rough. With speed though, it's faster and a straighter shot through the corner(s)." - vfracer r

yup soooo much smoother. I am a believer, hallelujah!
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