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Old 06-19-2007, 11:13 PM   #1
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Rearsets?

Are rearsets worth the money? It seems they might be after I spent the day at the track dragging toes.

But more importantly - I can really see the advantage of reverse shifting
(if that's what its called - you know like moto gp style shifting down to go up)

How much do these conversions cost???
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Are rearsets worth the money? It seems they might be after I spent the day at the track dragging toes.

But more importantly - I can really see the advantage of reverse shifting
(if that's what its called - you know like moto gp style shifting down to go up)

How much do these conversions cost???
I think you are riding wrong if you are dragging your toes.
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I think you are riding wrong if you are dragging your toes.
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When Gavin crashed the CBR600RR at TWS (Texas World Speedway), the rear sets from Gill's tooling did an excellent job working as framesliders to protect the engine casing. The initial cost may be higher but they are replaceable in pieces, so when you damage them, you don't have to replace the entire set.
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if you're dragging toes....your toes are in the wrong position. if you're dragging pegs, you definately need rearsets. (i'm not talking about the curb feelers also, those should be removed as soon as you buy a bike)

depending on the bike, you can just reverse the shift pattern without rearsets. it takes some getting used to though. it's like learning your shift patterns all over again, except twice as hard, because you're confusing yourself.
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How do you place your feet on the pegs? Are you sticking your toes way out or placing the ball of you foot on the peg when you go thru turns?

Rearsets are good to get your feet up outta the way, are replaceable in pieces and act as frame sliders (like Faylaricia said), and make body positioning easier for turns.

GP shifting is nice too. You may be able to change your shift linkage to get GP shifting on your bike.
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a good set could cost 350 and up


good body position can do more for you than rearsets, they are a good idea though
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Are rearsets worth the money? It seems they might be after I spent the day at the track dragging toes.

But more importantly - I can really see the advantage of reverse shifting
(if that's what its called - you know like moto gp style shifting down to go up)

How much do these conversions cost???

Can be. The 05-06 ZX-6R can either run standard shift or reverse, and it only takes about 10 minutes of labor to do. Then there's a guy who maes risers that set the rearsets 1 inch up and 1 inch back. . . . . . So rearsets aren't worth it to me.



Personally I'd check the Triumph boards and see if and what other people are doing. Your bike may have a simple 'fix' like mine. As Faylarcicia said, aftermarket is a lot stronger, and helps protect the bike though.
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some people will need that extra room for adjustability. i got the vortex, and started off all the way up and back.....and man, that is uncomfortable and hurts the knees and ankles after a few laps.

plus, a good aftermarket rearset will not snap/bend on impact like factory rearsets do. they act more like frame sliders and just grind away, then you can just replace the peg (most of the time).




I know they don't have the adjustability thing going for them, but they're good quality, and at $65 shipped, fairly cheap. I know aftermarkets are a lot stronger and in every way better than the stockers, but if I can get away with using the risers, it's a bit of money saved IMO. I already agreed on the protective capabilties though.
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just remember, if you change to gp shift.....better get used to it fast. downshifting coming out of a turn (when you meant to shift up) will not feel good once you smack the pavement. if you decide to change to gp shift, just make sure you take it easy and get familiar with it. until you have 100% blocked out the ways of standard shifting. then you can hammer away again.
The thing I noticed when I first started riding with gp shifting is that I picked it up quickly just riding around at normal speeds, but when it's time to go fast you easily revert back to what your used to. It takes some time to become second nature.

It also really limits the number of people that want to ride your bike. :laughing6
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im saving for some new rearsets, since i am dragging my pegs alot. Ill drag my pegs but not my toes so much. GP shift is tricky i downsifted once instead of up shifting (It was coming out diamonds edge right in front of you tony)
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im saving for some new rearsets, since i am dragging my pegs alot. Ill drag my pegs but not my toes so much. GP shift is tricky i downsifted once instead of up shifting (It was coming out diamonds edge right in front of you tony)
Doh! Did you let the clutch out? I always realized I did it before I let the clutch out, thank goodness!
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im saving for some new rearsets, since i am dragging my pegs alot. Ill drag my pegs but not my toes so much. GP shift is tricky i downsifted once instead of up shifting (It was coming out diamonds edge right in front of you tony)
i did that a few times as well. that day at the track was a bad day for me. i was experimenting on EVERYTHING that day.

new rearsets
new brake lines
gp shift

nothing but problems that day. shift rods came loose on 2 different spots, gp shift jacked me up for half the day until i decided to just change it back. :laughing6

at least the steel braided brake lines worked....stops on a dime.
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Doh! Did you let the clutch out? I always realized I did it before I let the clutch out, thank goodness!
I started to untill the back got all squirrley, then i caught myself. I did it on my steet bike about a month before this trackday
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if you're dragging toes....your toes are in the wrong position. if you're dragging pegs, you definately need rearsets. (i'm not talking about the curb feelers also, those should be removed as soon as you buy a bike)

depending on the bike, you can just reverse the shift pattern without rearsets. it takes some getting used to though. it's like learning your shift patterns all over again, except twice as hard, because you're confusing yourself.

+1

As far as GP shift, bring it by and I'll see if the Daytona can have the linkage reversed. If so I can take care of it, no charge.

FWIW, as others have said, if you're not familiar with GP shifting sometimes it can cause more problems than what it solves.

There are a LOT of very fast racers that use standard shift.
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Great advice agian guys and thank you!

The first thing I'll say is "I KNOW" my feet are all wrong!!! That became very obvious at the track. BUT I'm struggling to keep my size 12 feet up on the ball of the foot to then slide it back beneath the peg for "upshifting" and I personally felt while riding that the GP style shift made complete sense!

The rearsets would most definately kill my knees I am sure, but if they also act as sliders then it might be a great deal since I won't cut holes in my fairings to the regular frame sliders?!

Thanks again - I'll keep you informed with what happens next!
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The rearsets would most definately kill my knees I am sure, but if they also act as sliders then it might be a great deal since I won't cut holes in my fairings to the regular frame sliders?!
A combination of regular frame sliders and rearsets would probably work best. I've seen the results of having used both and in a crash, the engine casing was completely untouched.

About the knees, the rear sets have all sorts of different settings. Look at the top right pic and you see how many different settings there are available to find a comfortable position. You can screw the peg and shifter into many different holes on the bracket.

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Great advice agian guys and thank you!

The first thing I'll say is "I KNOW" my feet are all wrong!!! That became very obvious at the track. BUT I'm struggling to keep my size 12 feet up on the ball of the foot to then slide it back beneath the peg for "upshifting" and I personally felt while riding that the GP style shift made complete sense!

The rearsets would most definately kill my knees I am sure, but if they also act as sliders then it might be a great deal since I won't cut holes in my fairings to the regular frame sliders?!

Thanks again - I'll keep you informed with what happens next!
Adjust the foot controls up or down to fit your big dumb feet the lever.j/k!@ your dumb feet.
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