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Old 05-19-2015, 01:08 PM   #1
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Suspension revalving worth it?

Have an 08 yz250f that I like to ride woods and mx with. The rear shock is kicking my in the woods. It swaps every time it hits roots. Front end is better but still deflects quite a bit. I'm wondering if I should just try to dial in a different setting for the woods on the stock suspension or get it revalved to make it more similar to the KTM XC line. Of course the revalving and springs will be about $800, so is it worth it? I'm really slow if that helps anyone answer the question.
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Old 05-19-2015, 01:24 PM   #2
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I don't know where you're looking g at $800 suspension setups. You might want to give EBR a call.
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Old 05-19-2015, 01:30 PM   #3
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I don't know where you're looking g at $800 suspension setups. You might want to give EBR a call.
LOL. That is where I got that number. $800 covers revalve, springs, and they go ahead and replace all the wear items when they put it back together. $800 probably includes some little things I could leave out like the metal piston band for the shock and other I don't really need. I inspected my bushings recently and they are fine too. Could probably get it done for $550-600. I didn't think it was too expensive. Most shops want $250-$300 just to replace your fork seals.
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Agreed, look into a set of springs that will work for you as well.
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Old 05-19-2015, 01:32 PM   #5
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I'd recommend sourcing parts yourself and just paying them labor. Just like any other shop, you're going to pay full retail. How much do you weigh though? Could just be a matter if fine tuning the stock suspension.
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I weight 165 naked. Front spring will be fine but the rear needs a new one. I could try to dial it in but was looking for someone who had it done and whether they thought it was worth it.
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If the $800 includes front and rear, that is a fair price for valving and springs, but will not likely include any trick parts or specialized work. My suspension cost me $1800 for my 350sx-f but, I had some trick parts and specialized work performed to accommodate my riding style.

My suggestion is to figure out what you're going to ride more of, woods or mx and tailor your set up to meet that discipline. While they are set up quite a bit different from each other, you can accommodate for both with more $$ like I did.

Also, you may be able to solve a lot of your trouble with making adjustments to your current settings, I for one and for most other top fast guys, we make adjustments on the race course during practice sessions. It doesn't matter what the course looks like for me at practice before the first race even starts because like the 450SX/MX racers, I am always in the last race of the day and the track drastically changes from first practice to the last race of the day so, it's imperative that I make the necessary changes to make my suspension to work it's best based on my knowledge of how the terrain is and for the changes that I think the trails will see before I get to race.

If you want to adjust it, start by turning your setting down all the way, ride it and then turn you setting all the way up, ride it and then meet in the middle, then adjust 2-3 clicks each way from there so that you have an idea of horrible, horrible, good, better and then best. It is ideal to use a short section of trail to test on. find the bumpiest section or the most whooped section and work in that area until you have it dialed in nicely, this may take an hour to get it working best and from there, your adjustments will only need 2-4 clicks for changes. Always write down the starting point, take notes until you finish and you'll have it for future reference.
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i think you just need to learn how to ride bruh. Lemme know, ill steal chads 250x and try to slow down for you...
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I weight 165 naked. Front spring will be fine but the rear needs a new one. I could try to dial it in but was looking for someone who had it done and whether they thought it was worth it.
Have you set your race sag? Very important, plenty of how to's on youtube
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At 165lbs there isn't any reason the stock suspension components won't suffice for you. Learn to dial those in and you'll be fine. You can always just swap the spring on the rear with a 450 spring and save yourself some money on valving etc. But then again, you shouldn't need to do that.
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I have my stock rear 450 spring if you want it. It's off my 2011450.
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Is the 450 spring supposed to be a bit softer? Seems counter intuitive because the bike is heavier than a 250.
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Have you set your race sag? Very important, plenty of how to's on youtube
Yes, I set it when I bought it.

You spent $1,800 on your suspension? that's a lot. I remember when $1,800 would buy me a car. I think I can get it down to $600. Even though I can afford it, I would feel sick to my stomach spending $1,800 on my suspension.
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Yes, I set it when I bought it.

You spent $1,800 on your suspension? that's a lot. I remember when $1,800 would buy me a car. I think I can get it down to $600. Even though I can afford it, I would feel sick to my stomach spending $1,800 on my suspension.
YES, it's really expensive but, the faster you go, the better suspension you need, it's all relative to how far you want to go in the sport or racing.

You won't find any "fast" racers that haven't invested good money in their suspension, it's the second most expensive part of the bike.

Contact Factory Connection, they're local and in the $600 range for a full job and quite a few people like there work.
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YES, it's really expensive but, the faster you go, the better suspension you need, it's all relative to how far you want to go in the sport or racing.

You won't find any "fast" racers that haven't invested good money in their suspension, it's the second most expensive part of the bike.

Contact Factory Connection, they're local and in the $600 range for a full job and quite a few people like there work.
HES 100% right brandon. when you get to that level, you have to have parts that support you. this applies to anything with an engine and suspension!
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have you softened up your compression and slowed your rebound?
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Yes, I set it when I bought it.

You spent $1,800 on your suspension? that's a lot. I remember when $1,800 would buy me a car. I think I can get it down to $600. Even though I can afford it, I would feel sick to my stomach spending $1,800 on my suspension.
The guy I bought the yz450 from said he spent well over $2000 on that set up. It is way better than I need but it sure is nice at the MX track. Smooth like butter
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Yes this did help some.
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Over the years I've learned that it's in my best interest to save the money and do it right, once.

Every single time, without fail, that I've just tried to refresh, revalve or buy cheap components I've still spent the $1500+ on the trick stuff somewhere down the line.

I used JM Racing on my dirt bikes.
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Over the years I've learned that it's in my best interest to save the money and do it right, once.

Every single time, without fail, that I've just tried to refresh, revalve or buy cheap components I've still spent the $1500+ on the trick stuff somewhere down the line.

I used JM Racing on my dirt bikes.
I say steer clear of JM for woods set up, for MX, he's a great guy to use. If you want to buy a truck, don't visit the Honda dealer!
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