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Old 05-19-2015, 08:19 PM   #241
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Old 05-19-2015, 08:31 PM   #242
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Old 05-19-2015, 08:45 PM   #243
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Same can be said of squids and sport bikers when we "dress up" in full leathers, back protectors, race boots and helmets....
Nuff said.
Joining an MC means you support the overall system of MC's, a system run in part by known 1%'ers. Lots of guys just say, "Ya, I know, but its worth it for the brotherhood and camaraderie". I don't know of any organized sportbike groups that require approval to add new members to the group from a council. It's just not a fair comparison. People band together all the time to share a passion. But the ones who band together to to charge admission for a passion are basically businessmen. In the case of the 1%'s, the business isn't always legal.

Guilt by association versus guilt by voluntary involvement. Very different concepts. You pay COC dues, wear patches...you support criminals. If you wear leathers and ride a sportbike, you do what some criminals do, but you aren't supporting them or buying into their system of control.
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Old 05-20-2015, 12:07 AM   #245
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I lost a 4runner to the same practice last month. I wasn't driving, I had no drugs, I was asleep in bed, I gave no permission to have the car on the road that night. But, now I have to fight for it if I want it. Torn up seats and interior and all....
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What's the MH equivalent to this? Sol ever get into some real with any other forum owners?
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Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

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Old 05-20-2015, 07:11 AM   #247
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hahaha. i remember when....
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I heard he was responsible for taking out the Houston riders site or something like that. Or the 5 posters just stopped posting. You decide
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Old 05-20-2015, 07:20 AM   #249
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I heard he was responsible for taking out the Houston riders site or something like that. Or the 5 posters just stopped posting. You decide
nah, it all went downhill once i got banned on the site that would never ban.
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That's what the media wants you to believe.
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I lost a 4runner to the same practice last month. I wasn't driving, I had no drugs, I was asleep in bed, I gave no permission to have the car on the road that night. But, now I have to fight for it if I want it. Torn up seats and interior and all....
Wanna sell it if you get it back?
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I lost a 4runner to the same practice last month. I wasn't driving, I had no drugs, I was asleep in bed, I gave no permission to have the car on the road that night. But, now I have to fight for it if I want it. Torn up seats and interior and all....
Sounds like it was stolen and insurance should take care of it
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now they are saying a uninvited MC showed up and thats partially what sparked this. I thought all were welcome at COCI ?

probably none of our business I suppose
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Don't know if this was shared or not, but it made sense as how this escalated so quickly...

Link: http://www.khou.com/story/news/natio...ning/27569045/

It noted that Cossacks members had recently "started wearing the Texas patch on the bottom rocker of their vests without the approval of the Bandidos," the bulletin said. "Traditionally, the Bandidos have been the dominant motorcycle club in Texas, and no other club is allowed to wear the Texas bar without their consent. If the club refuses, Bandidos members will attempt to remove the vest by force from the member."

The memo detailed the escalating conflict:

• March 22: About 10 Cossacks forced a Bandidos to pull over along Interstate 35. They then attacked the Bandidos member with "chains, batons, and metal pipes before stealing his motorcycle."

• March 22: A group of Bandidos confronted a Cossacks member fueling his motorcycle at a truck stop. After the Cossacks member refused to remove the Texas patch from his vest, the Bandidos attacked him "by striking his head with a hammer and stealing his vest."

• April 7: The FBI El Paso Division received information from law enforcement that about 100 Bandidos planned to travel to Odessa on April 11 in order to start a "war" with Cossacks in the area.

• April 9: The FBI San Antonio division received information that Bandidos had "discussed the possibility of going to war with Cossacks" and "instructed members to be on the lookout for members or associates of the Cossacks" during the April 11 weekend biker rallies held in Amarillo, Hondo, Midland and Odessa.

• April 24: The FBI Dallas division released a report regarding three recent fights between Bandidos and Cossacks in East Texas.

The bulletin states that both groups had been warned that there would be an increased law enforcement presence during the April 11 weekend in Odessa.

"The warning did little to curb the Bandidos presence, however, and it was estimated that 200 to 400 Bandidos from Texas and New Mexico rode into the Odessa area," the bulletin said. "There were no reports of Cossacks members in the area, and no significant violent activity was reported."

The bulletin described the Bandidos as "one of the largest one-percenter outlaw motorcycle groups in the United States" and the largest outlaw motorcycle gang in Texas. The Cossacks is a national club with members in the east, north and west Texas.

"Law enforcement personnel is urged to always maintain vigilance when in contact with members of either motorcycle group," the bulletin advised.

Cook, who works for a Kansas city-area police department, was part of an undercover operation that infiltrated a gang affiliated with the Bandidos. He does not believe the violence is over between the two biker gangs.

"You're absolutely going to have -for-tat," Cook said. "It may not be today; it may not be tomorrow; but these groups are not going to fall in love with each other. There's going to be hatred that runs pretty deep."

Cook said now is the time for law enforcement to come down hard on the Bandidos.

"In my opinion, the Bandidos shouldn't be able to move around freely anywhere in this country right now," Cook said. "Law enforcement ought to be all over these guys anywhere they go. They've definitely earned a target on their back."
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Yep, stand up people right there. Let's all get leather vests and act just like them.
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