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Old 05-19-2015, 12:57 PM   #201
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Old 05-19-2015, 01:03 PM   #202
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AS someone whos been in the MC world, let me enlighten you. There is bags and just normal dudes that want to ride.

The Los Carnales for example is all police officers. Doubt you could call them "Criminals".

Bandidos? Yeah they're pretty much full of shady types, although ive met some that are nice guys...but whatever.

Simply to classify all MC's as criminal is stupid and illogical.
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Then I must be a criminal since I have customers that are members of MC's?
I also attend meets where sometimes various MC club members will show up.
Does that make me a criminal as well?
I guess you're also going to start requiring background checks before you ride with a group to make sure none of them are criminals....

Careful where you go with the guilt by association thing.
It's a small jump from what you're inferring about MC's to going to jail because you ride a sport bike and some other sport bike riders broke the law.

If most of the MC's are criminal in nature why would someone that isn't, want to play dress up with the same vests, bandana's,logos,rockers, and bikes and act just like them? Why act like something you're not? Associate yourself with groups that don't have the same agenda? Why be part of the COC? LCLF isn't part of the COC. Wanna know why? Because they are cops and don't want to associate with criminals. Look, I understand you have a couple friends with good intentions, but it's not a good group. IT'S NOT. If your buddies don't want to be called criminals they don't associate with them. To answer your question, if you play dress up and act like a criminal I'm going to assume you are.
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Old 05-19-2015, 01:07 PM   #205
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AS someone whos been in the MC world, let me enlighten you. There is bags and just normal dudes that want to ride.

The Los Carnales for example is all police officers. Doubt you could call them "Criminals".

Bandidos? Yeah they're pretty much full of shady types, although ive met some that are nice guys...but whatever.

Simply to classify all MC's as criminal is stupid and illogical.
LCLF aren't part of the COC.
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I wonder how many of those weapons were just pocket knives like some of us carry everyday.
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In one of the interviews with the sheriff he said their were “off Duty” officers who were in the restaurant who got involved in the fight inside the restaurant. Not that I trust what he said but makes you wonder if it wasn’t egged on by some with an agenda."
1. It was not the sheriff, it was the PIO for the Waco Police Department.
2. He never said they were involved in the fight inside the restaurant. He said "there were off duty officers that were here, saw what was going on and immediately armed themselves and went to the aid of their fellow officers."
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If most of the MC's are criminal in nature why would someone that isn't, want to play dress up with the same vests, bandana's,logos,rockers, and bikes and act just like them? Why act like something you're not? Associate yourself with groups that don't have the same agenda? Why be part of the COC? LCLF isn't part of the COC. Wanna know why? Because they are cops and don't want to associate with criminals. Look, I understand you have a couple friends with good intentions, but it's not a good group. IT'S NOT. If your buddies don't want to be called criminals they don't associate with them. To answer your question, if you play dress up and act like a criminal I'm going to assume you are.
Same can be said of squids and sport bikers when we "dress up" in full leathers, back protectors, race boots and helmets....
Nuff said.
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Nuff said.
Totally agree...
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These are known gangs. if you look at some of the photos, they had lighting bolts on their jackets. They're just misunderstood I guess. I mean, firing weapons in broad daylight is the first thing I would do if I get in an argument. Right?
Toe admit you are just they left the house without their hoods.
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Old 05-19-2015, 01:46 PM   #212
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speaking of the SS logos...lol...

a friend has that tattoo on his arm. for like 3 years i never asked him about it in fear he was really a .

finally i did..

"na man, its really SS like the chevy. i swear. i liked the font. and realized 6 months later what it looked like. me right?''
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speaking of the SS logos...lol...

a friend has that tattoo on his arm. for like 3 years i never asked him about it in fear he was really a .

finally i did..

"na man, its really SS like the chevy. i swear. i liked the font. and realized 6 months later what it looked like. me right?''
sure, is he a peckerwood like the cartoon as well?

I have a few friends that went to prison that really got into Chevy cars/trucks when they were in there.
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Those SS are kinda snazzy looking.. lol
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lmao. i still think that...but hes a nice dude. cant see him being hateful...or in prison.
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lmao. i still think that...but hes a nice dude. cant see him being hateful...or in prison.
Hard to believe Jim Baker spent 5 years in prison too. Before he was caught, who'd have thought he was such a bad boy?
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lmao. i still think that...but hes a nice dude. cant see him being hateful...or in prison.
Trust me, you never really know. And that seems like quite the bullshit excuse for a "ss" tattoo. I'd bet a good amount of money he's not telling you the truth.
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PRETTY sure if he was a real he wouldnt be friends with my jewish lmao.
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sadly, I am getting the feeling this was some sort of set up that we will never know the truth about and once again the police/feds are stomping on constitutional rights. sure seems to be getting closer to a police state each day. hopefully just speculation.


as for the race card, no one is talking about the true white none privilege. white guys shot by cops, oh they must have deserved it. black guy shot, oh the cops were wrong, lets go crazy. IMHO anyway, off topic/on topic. IDFK
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