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Old 05-14-2015, 10:19 AM   #1
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Bad Pass by Me?

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Beside horrible body position one of the things I have been told to work on is being more decisive on passing. I tend to catch people ok but then adopt their pace for a while before moving around. I don't like passing on the outside of turns because I always worry the guy I passing may go wide and collect me. I much rather prefer to do it on the drive after apex even if I have to drive a little deeper and square it off. To my mind its not an inside pass if it occurs AFTER APEX, but thoughts please. In the mean time I'll work on growing a larger pair and just driving around the outside.

So bad pass or no?
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Honestly id say that was a perfect pass. He was going away from you and you were able to to get by easily. Whether ridesmart considers it an inside pass or not I don't know.
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If that's a bad pass, I've been doing it wrong all my life haha.
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Whether ridesmart considers it an inside pass or not I don't know.

Appreciate the feedback Dave. There were complaints about folks passing on the inside all weekend in 2. I never want to be THAT GUY, so I am always more concerned about making sure I treat people the way I want them to treat me. It sucks getting stuffed and or buzzed close so and I don't want to do anything that might cause ME or anyone else to wreck. Its all for fun.
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Didn't watch yet, but an inside pass can be safer than an outside pass on many occasions. I like a 6ft rule either side

I've never understood some with the approach that ONLY outside passes are safe. It is silly.
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Appreciate the feedback Dave. There were complaints about folks passing on the inside all weekend in 2. I never want to be THAT GUY, so I am always more concerned about making sure I treat people the way I want them to treat me. It sucks getting stuffed and or buzzed close so and I don't want to do anything that might cause ME or anyone else to wreck. Its all for fun.
If someone ever complains about a pass like that, offer them a coupon for free cleaning at the Korean place down the road because they have got a lot of sand up there.
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Just watched it. Nice pass.
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The guy I did it to was cool with it. What I was more driving at is it still considered an in side pass if you do it post apex? Ridesmart instructor said it was passing between the other rider and apex once lean is initiated but what if you're at or just past apex and picking the bikes up?

Going outside just seems so risky in so many places unless you are WAY faster than the other rider. I saw a someone on a yellow 750 try to go around someone through 10 but didn't have enough extra speed on the rider in front to get it done by 11. Net result was a near collision since the 750 had to check up as the other rider cut back for 11. Going to outside only works if you have enough speed to both cover the extra distance while passing the other rider and can do it quick enough to be out of the zone they will drift out into on exit.
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I'm not about to try to justify or explain a Ride Smart rule. You'd have to ask them, its their show and they make the rules.

Just realize, not everyone follows their same rules of passing. As I said, if you give 6 foot either side, it was a good clean pass. Especially since no one was spooked.
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The thing you have to remember is trajectory. On corner entry, everyone is headed towards the clip point, if you are closer than the passee at or before the clip point - inside pass. Once you've hit that point, the inside pass rule is done. Late apexing and driving under someone on the exit is far and away the safest way to negotiate a pass while turning.
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What tires did you say you were running? I definitely need to quit with the sport touring (90% street & 10% track) tire for track days..they seem to over heat quick.
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They got oily and gummy after 3 laps.
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Six feet, that's a lot. If they didn't touch me or interfere with my line, that's a clean pass, can be inches where I'm from
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Six feet, that's a lot. If they didn't touch me or interfere with my line, that's a clean pass, can be inches where I'm from
I don't know , but... Seems like that might be more of a "level 3 rider" mindset.
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What tires did you say you were running? I definitely need to quit with the sport touring (90% street & 10% track) tire for track days..they seem to over heat quick.
Especially if you're running "low" pressure
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I don't know , but... Seems like that might be more of a "level 3 rider" mindset.
Personal opinion really, I've rubbed knees and bows being passed before and it didn't spook me , made me laugh and kind of tow or chase the rider who passed me .
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