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Old 11-04-2015, 06:39 AM   #761
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If rossi is so slow and Marquez is so fast after he burns of some fuel, wouldn't it make sense for MM to just hang back a few laps, make a clean pass and leave VR in the dust?
Instead he was constantly dicing it up, passing and repassing, turn after turn. Knowing he was letting the leaders get father ahead, knowing he was showing rossi down.
Why not back off, let rossi run his race and when he gets a real chance to pass and be gone, go for it?

Because he wanted to up Rossi's championship run
Wouldn't it make more sense for VR to let MM tow him around because MM was trying to cross the finish line first just as he did in Australia? VR was much closer to J-Lo in Australia then he was in Malaysia. MM was faster in qualifying after all.

Rossi finished 13.724 seconds off the lead. He screwed himself
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Glad to see Bevo remembered to put the Marquez nuts back in his mouth this morning. Consistency!
I'm not glad that I'm any part of your homosexual fantasies. More that 13 seconds back, yeah, Rossi had a chance at winning the race
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Wouldn't it make more sense for VR to let MM tow him around because MM was trying to cross the finish line first just as he did in Australia?
No.
Rossi needed to be ahead of MM if he could. He was trying to catch the leaders because he was scrambling for every championship point he could get.
If MM was so fast, he should have just followed Rossi until he could make a pass and go.
More likely he was at rossi, so he tried to show him down.
Remember, they were only 7 laps into the race, plenty of time to burn fuel and get the handling he claimed he would have.
It's about respect for the championship.
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No.
Rossi needed to be ahead of MM if he could. He was trying to catch the leaders because he was scrambling for every championship point he could get.
If MM was so fast, he should have just followed Rossi until he could make a pass and go.
More likely he was at rossi, so he tried to show him down.
Remember, they were only 7 laps into the race, plenty of time to burn fuel and get the handling he claimed he would have.
It's about respect for the championship.
Leaders were getting away and MM wanted to win just as he did in Australia. VR finished more than 13 seconds back proving he had no chance without MM. Pretty sure they were within 3 seconds of Pedrosa when MM crashed. Try again
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You are out of your mind. They were over 4 seconds off of Lorenzo, who was several seconds from Pedrosa.

Want proof that Marquez was slowing? Watch his body position coming into the turn that he didn't make it out of. He is sitting up before Rossi even gets close. Rossi realized the tactic and responded, but you'll never see the truth being blinded by your fanaticism.
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You are out of your mind. They were over 4 seconds off of Lorenzo, who was several seconds from Pedrosa.

Want proof that Marquez was slowing? Watch his body position coming into the turn that he didn't make it out of. He is sitting up before Rossi even gets close. Rossi realized the tactic and responded, but you'll never see the truth being blinded by your fanaticism.


1. Australia.
2. Did VR fall further behind or not?
3. Give me some data, not your flapping gums

Why is VR being a two faced ? Reaching out to shake hands with MM in Australia, giving him the thumbs up, then instead of having a face to face before Malaysia, cries to the media in a press conference?
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So why did Marc Marquez set the fastest ever lap in warmup that morning and over .5 faster than Rossi all of a sudden not be able to fight against Lorenzo or Pedrosa? Why couldn't he just run away from Rossi?
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1. Australia.
2. Did VR fall further behind or not?
3. Give me some data, not your flapping gums

Why is VR being a two faced ? Reaching out to shake hands with MM in Australia, giving him the thumbs up, then instead of having a face to face before Malaysia, cries to the media in a press conference?
1)Marquez did not need to let Lorenzo win to help him, he only needed to keep him in front of Rossi.

2) It is much easier to keep pace with someone you can actually see, it's called getting a tow. You need to be within about a second for it to really work. Everyone knows Jorge's outright pace is faster, but VR can hang with him if he gets a tow. Marquez prevented that from happening.

3)Watch the race...??

Immediately after the race, Rossi did not fully understand what Marquez was doing. He, along with 5 other riders, found it odd that he ran that lap at the very end. Once he watched the race, it was clear to him. The next opportunity was pre-event press conference in Malaysia, where he called him out.

Shaking hands/ thumbs up to someone who just beat you is called sportsmanship. I do not expect you to understand this aspect.
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So why did Marc Marquez set the fastest ever lap in warmup that morning and over .5 faster than Rossi all of a sudden not be able to fight against Lorenzo or Pedrosa? Why couldn't he just run away from Rossi?
Did he have a full tank in warmup? During the race the announcers said the full tank was causing him issues. MM said it was causing him issues and so did Honda. Are the announcers on the Honda payroll?

How did MM go from 4th to 1st in Australia? VR would have finished 4th in Malaysia as he did in Australia so he improved one position by taking out who he could
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1)Marquez did not need to let Lorenzo win to help him, he only needed to keep him in front of Rossi.

2) It is much easier to keep pace with someone you can actually see, it's called getting a tow. You need to be within about a second for it to really work. Everyone knows Jorge's outright pace is faster, but VR can hang with him if he gets a tow. Marquez prevented that from happening.

3)Watch the race...??

Immediately after the race, Rossi did not fully understand what Marquez was doing. He, along with 5 other riders, found it odd that he ran that lap at the very end. Once he watched the race, it was clear to him. The next opportunity was pre-event press conference in Malaysia, where he called him out. Forget about the kick

Shaking hands/ thumbs up to someone who just beat you is called sportsmanship. I do not expect you to understand this aspect.
1. So first place doesn't get more points than second? MM should have not passed J-Lo at the end of the last lap. He took a risk in doing that. There would have been zero risk by riding J-Lo's tail and letting him have even more points over 4th place finisher VR

2. Both MM and Iannone did VR a solid by towing him in Australia. He should have let MM tow him in Malaysia

3. I have watched the race. I can watch it today in HD again if I wish. What I saw, was Australia all over again until VR threw a fit. MM put his head down during the final laps in Australia and said it and these tires, I'm going to crash or win. He admitted that during the race he had overheated the tires trying to catch J-Lo and had to slow to cool them.

4. Is crying to the press, conspiracy theories, looking at the competitor that is behind you so you can set him up and take him wide good sportsmanship?
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Can't find an English article but Jorge said he wanted to provide information so CAS could make the right decision. Still don't know what he thinks is the right decision.
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You can't be serious with the you come up with, you have to be just clinging to an argument that everyone else can see is a loss. Enjoy your day, sir.
He's not.
He just likes to troll.

Arguing with Bevo is like wrestling a pig...

After a while you realize you aren't getting anywhere and the pig is starting to enjoy it.
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Can't find an English article but Jorge said he wanted to provide information so CAS could make the right decision. Still don't know what he thinks is the right decision.
I posted a couple of articles that were dated just after the race where he stated basically what I've posted, that VR should only be punished in the last race by placing him behind MM. J-Lo said the MM received zero points so VR should receive zero points.
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I posted a couple of articles that were dated just after the race where he stated basically what I've posted, that VR should only be punished in the last race by placing him behind MM. J-Lo said the MM received zero points so VR should receive zero points.
He is allowed to change his mind, but I agree he wasn't going to try and help Rossi.
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He is allowed to change his mind, but I agree he wasn't going to try and help Rossi.
Doesn't look like he was. Pretty sure his lawyers were looking at the cash benefit of being the champion
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