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Old 04-01-2015, 05:44 PM   #121
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I'm looming on the back of the rotella bottle this very minute and it does meet those requirements...this is rotella t conventional. Not the T6 synthetic.
Here's the brochure from Shell. Am I missing it?

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For the guys trying to save some money buying Rotella. You could buy some slightly used oil for about the same price
I have about 2 gallons of AmsOil that i will sell for $20. The oil is in pretty good shape, and only one owner.
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For the guys trying to save some money buying Rotella. You could buy some slightly used oil for about the same price
I have about 2 gallons of AmsOil that i will sell for $20. The oil is in pretty good shape, and only one owner.
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T6 is diesel truck oil, thats why I use it in my Mazdaspeed3
Is that a short bed or long bed diesel Mazdaspeed3?
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I think you might be.

If you look on the right side of the page under where it says "oil viscosity grade" it says " JASO DH-2, MA" which is the same thing as what your manual is suggesting to use. It's just worded differently due to the oils intended use in diesel engines.

The DH-2 part is just an additional requirement for diesel engines. Anything with the letters MA, MA1, or MA2 automatically means its 903, because those are just three different different grades within the 903.
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I think you might be.

If you look on the right side of the page under where it says "oil viscosity grade" it says " JASO DH-2, MA" which is the same thing as what your manual is suggesting to use. It's just worded differently due to the oils intended use in diesel engines.
Not for 10W-30. 15W-40 is not a recommended weight for Honda
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Not for 10W-30. 15W-40 is not a recommended weight for Honda
Bro, who uses 10-30 rotella in a bike?

All I am saying is that if they recommended 15W-40, like a lot of bikes, there would be no problem with using rotella.
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Bro, who uses 10-30 rotella in a bike?

All I am saying is that if they recommended 15W-40, like a lot of bikes, there would be no problem with using rotella.
Well they don't. Honda doesn't even make 15W-40 weight
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Well they don't. Honda doesn't even make 15W-40 weight
So, because honda has engineered their motor to use 10W-30 and rotella doesn't make a suitable 10W-30, that means their 15W-40 is inferior in engines that do use that weight?

I'm surprised they don't recommend a range of weights for different climates.
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I'm surprised they don't recommend a range of weights for different climates.
They do, but 10W-30 is standard. For the CBR, 10W-40 for higher temps
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1. I use Honda oil and Patrick at Motorcycles Unlimited says it's a quality oil
2. The manual does not recommend Honda oil or any brand. It only recommends weights and JASO certified oil
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Define "insist". Does is void the warranty?

It may also say motorcycle specific oil, but I don't have the manual on me. Pretty sure it says not to use energy conserving oils
Haven't made it to the end of the thread to see this addressed, but Rotella T6 IS JASO-MA certified, and is not an "energy conserving" oil. So, as long as it meets the weight recommended in the manual, the logical conclusion from these statements is that....

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Honda does not make or recommend 5W-40 either
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Haven't made it to the end of the thread to see this addressed, but Rotella T6 IS JASO-MA certified, and is not an "energy conserving" oil. So, as long as it meets the weight recommended in the manual, the logical conclusion from these statements is that....

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Once that was debunked he made some other lame excuse about oil weight...then he backpeddled saying 15W-40 is recommended for higher temp range on his manual...higher temperature like where, Venus? We live in south Texas bro

My manual has a temp range too and 15W-40 is something like 35-100 degrees.
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Yeah, I don't care about your bike's requirements of 10w-30, because I'm not asking you to use this. (FWIW, I've never actually seen Rotella 10w-30 on the shelf anywhere. Didn't realize any diesels uses an oil that light.)

You've been trying to tell me why using this oil is bad, when it meets the requirements of my engine, which by your admission means it should be fine. My bikes all call for a 10w-40, and from the research I've done, the only difference between a 10w-40 and 5w-40 is that the latter actually has more desirable properties at engine start-up temps.

So again, if it meets the specifications, AND the weights required by the manufacturer, tell me again why it's unsuitable?
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Once that was debunked he made some other lame excuse about oil weight...then he backpeddled saying 15W-40 is recommended for higher temp range on his manual...higher temperature like where, Venus? We live in south Texas bro

My manual has a temp range too and 15W-40 is something like 35-100 degrees.
Uh, reading is not your forte
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They do, but 10W-30 is standard. For the CBR, 10W-40 for higher temps


Higher temps as in Summer as opposed to Winter. Forgot who my audience was and that everything needed to be broken down for folks just learning how to bank online
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You've been trying to tell me why using this oil is bad, when it meets the requirements of my engine, which by your admission means it should be fine.
Have I? Care to quote me or do you prefer to keep it easy and just make up?
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Uh, reading is not your forte
I can read just fine. If your bike will use 10-40, 15-40 is not going to make much of a difference in houston.

Apparently you are having problems reading your own manual...


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Pro Honda GN4 4-stroke oil (USA and Canada) or equivalent motor oil.
API service classification: SG or Higher.
JASO T 903 standard MA.
Viscosity: SAE 10W-30. Other viscosities of oil may be used depending upon the average temperature in your riding area. Use the chart as a guide.
Any oil chart will show 15W-40 for use in the 15-100 degree range.
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