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Old 03-31-2015, 11:14 AM   #61
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A raging controversy about engine oil? Next I'm going to open the newspaper and discover there's violence in the middle East.
They got oil over there?
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Its worth mentioning that I wasnt in the engine because it was hurt. I was in there to go bigger. It was when I did the 1441cc build
Looks hurt to me. Are they supposed to look like that? Is that wear marks I'm looking at? Looks like it...
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I run Mobil delvac in all my bikes ftw I don't have as near as many issues with clutch slippage compared to other folks.
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Looks hurt to me. Are they supposed to look like that? Is that wear marks I'm looking at? Looks like it...
what looks hurt?
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Switched from conventional oil to Synthetic

Someone running Rotella and servicing every, 3K send a sample to Blackstone labs and I'll pay the invoice to shut some of you up. Without confirmation via analysis...oil theories are worthless. I have a sample kit someone can use, but Blackstone will send you one for free. First come first served on my offer, I get the analytical report...
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Someone running Rotella and servicing every, 3K send a sample to Blackstone labs and I'll pay the invoice to shut some of you up. Without confirmation via analysis...oil theories are worthless. I have a sample kit someone can use, but Blackstone will send you one for free. First come first served on my offer, I get the analytical report...
I'll post this again for everyone's viewing pleasure.


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Looks like the data is right there in black and white, precisely why I pay for oil analysis!
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I still have not sent in 3 of my oils for analysis due to funds, but from my current experience and past knowledge, Rotella T is great so long as you shorten your oil interchange levels. Granted Rotella T is certified to use, it will shear regardless since our bikes operate at high RPMs as well as sharing the oil with the transmission gears. My bike is an unfortunate example of what happens when you run Rotella T6 At high RPMs daily. 9.5-12k+ RPMs for extended periods. I lost compression in both cylinders after a hard day at the track. Bike was having trouble starting since the rings were no longer sealing.

I'm sure Patrick and a few others have read the Amsoil oil on moto oils:

http://www.dualies.com/downloads/fil...0-%20g2156.pdf
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Couldn't have said it better, and unfortunately you're an example of what could happen by running Rotella.

Now before all of the Rotella fan boys come out of the woodwork, let me clarify.
I like Rotella. , I run it in my diesel dually and in most of our farm equipment. But, that's where it ends. Regardless of it's JASO certification in my experience Rotella does not do well in high revving engines, let alone those that also rely on the same oil for transmission lubrication.
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Hmm....
Thanks for the post Pinball. I'm sure the Rotella fans still haven't clicked on the link. It's too damning to their argument. Especially the part where Patrick is saying "Regardless of it's JASO certification in my experience Rotella does not do well in high revving engines, let alone those that also rely on the same oil for transmission lubrication."

Looky looky! Transmission parts damaged..

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Ok. Toe pull your blinders off for a second. . I feel like Im trying to discuss welfare with a liberal here. I didnt say about running 3k on my oil did I? I also didnt specify which grade I used. You do realize there is more than one Rotella right? Now take that one post and shove it up your cause I'm tired of you showing one little spec of proof like its a fact. Your whole argument is based on one persons sample. That argument in itself is flawed and your running like a liberal with it. Over and over with one little spec of proof. Just an oil sample despite who knows how many thousands of happy users world wide. There are hundreds of oil samples all over the net on this subject. I dont think it matters which oil is used. I think frequency is key. I'm sure Toe will post his oil analysis link to try and disprove this too though. Any oil changed at a proper frequency will take an engine to the end of its useful life.
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Use whatever you want. I'm using straight weight 30 Dino car oil for break in for my 250. Clutch isn't slipping but I'm only pushing 265ccs lol.

My 250 holds less than 2 qts and rides at 11k daily. Redline is at 13+. Add racing so it'll Shear down quicker than bigger bikes due to poor oil cooling and volume.
The bearings looked when I toor down the motor.

You can switch back an forth with Dino and synthetic. The only time you'll see a problem is your bike is old and and failing apart and all the old Dino cake was holding together.
You could put olive oil in a 250 and it would run.
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Its funny. Most Car/Moto forums have a "No oil threads" policy.
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Ok. Toe pull your blinders off for a second. . I feel like Im trying to discuss welfare with a liberal here. I didnt say about running 3k on my oil did I? I also didnt specify which grade I used. You do realize there is more than one Rotella right? Now take that one post and shove it up your cause I'm tired of you showing one little spec of proof like its a fact. Your whole argument is based on one persons sample. That argument in itself is flawed and your running like a liberal with it. Over and over with one little spec of proof. Just an oil sample despite who knows how many thousands of happy users world wide. There are hundreds of oil samples all over the net on this subject. I dont think it matters which oil is used. I think frequency is key. I'm sure Toe will post his oil analysis link to try and disprove this too though. Any oil changed at a proper frequency will take an engine to the end of its useful life.
I'm Shelnutt and I approve this message.

+1 Toe says rotella is for jews, but I bet he runs his out to 5,000 miles since he paid for the best synthetic hype on the market. Meanwhile mine would have had 2 oil changes by then with the "jew" oil.

Toe also discourages valve inspections
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Ok. Toe pull your blinders off for a second. . I feel like Im trying to discuss welfare with a liberal here. I didnt say about running 3k on my oil did I? I also didnt specify which grade I used. You do realize there is more than one Rotella right? Now take that one post and shove it up your cause I'm tired of you showing one little spec of proof like its a fact. Your whole argument is based on one persons sample. That argument in itself is flawed and your running like a liberal with it. Over and over with one little spec of proof. Just an oil sample despite who knows how many thousands of happy users world wide. There are hundreds of oil samples all over the net on this subject. I dont think it matters which oil is used. I think frequency is key. I'm sure Toe will post his oil analysis link to try and disprove this too though. Any oil changed at a proper frequency will take an engine to the end of its useful life.
Why Rotella? Why not any other synthetic? Why the cheapest synthetic? I know why Shelnutt does it. I'm trying to figure out why you insist on using an oil that is designed for diesels in a track bike? Why not not Castrol high milage? Ever try that? Why would you want to put an inferior oil in a bike and then change the put of the oil? Why not put something in that is designed for the application? Your logic is flawed?
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wasnt designed to make your hard. Yet it works
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