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Old 03-30-2015, 02:58 PM   #41
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Who the runs the bikes to the point that the bearing wear is the issue?
I've got a 100k mile bike that I'm running Synthetic Rotella (T5?) in. Funny that everyone says it's horrible for motorcycles, yet it actually has the JASO-MA rating, designating it as having passed the certification tests for motorcycle use.

No, I wouldn't run it in a high-performance street bike, or probably anything that I ever rev past 7k rpm, but it does fine in my Venture, and I change my oil fairly frequently. I do run a motorcycle-specific synthetic in my Trumpy though.

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Ok - this is a GREAT oil thread. I believe I have my answer because I was truly waiting for someone to tell me - dood, your clutch is . But that doesn't seem to be the case.
YES - I did run full synthetic. high milage car oil from Castrol.
I now have a brand new filter.

So- at this point (price is not an issue) I think I'll go with Mobil 1 motorcycl synthetic. This is what I ran in my all my other bikes and never had an issue.

Any one care to make a better suggestion? All ears (or eyes in this case, since it's text).

Seems to be a lot of controversy about Rotella. I thought you melted Velvita in that stuff for ceso dip.....
Again, I wouldn't use Rotella in anything that was high revving, or designated as "high performance". I guess if you were doing oil changes every 1k miles it might be negligible, but I have read that it breaks down fairly quickly. I'd like to do some lab tests on the Rotella synthetic I'm running in my Venture at 1000 mile intervals just to see how quickly it's deteriorating under the use it's seeing.
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I use Mobil 1 4t motorcycle oil because it is available almost anywhere (and sometimes on sale). I have had some clutch slipping in 6th but that was from a different issue.
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So what's the bestest oil in the whole world for motorcycles?
Generally, the answer to this question is the one that produces ~ 10 psi per 1000 rpm in the oiling system and maintains proper viscosity at the temperature at which the engine is operating at the time.

Or are you saying that the Repsol 10w-50 4T racing formula is the magic oil that maintains perfect properties under all conditions for all motorcycles?
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Generally, the answer to this question is the one that produces ~ 10 psi per 1000 rpm in the oiling system and maintains proper viscosity at the temperature at which the engine is operating at the time.

Or are you saying that the Repsol 10w-50 4T racing formula is the magic oil that maintains perfect properties under all conditions for all motorcycles?
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You really think the bike is gonna last to the point a difference in oil is going to make a difference ? Lol. I did at least 500 1/4 mile passes on rotella before an engine tear down and rebuild. 500 + passes and 12k miles. Bearing wear was negligible. Cylinder wall wear wasn't visible. The cost of the oil wasn't that big a factor. I'm not hurting for oil money. Lol
This x1000.

All BS aside, if you ran the out of an engine, all on rotella, tore it down and its all good... thats acceptable evidence for me.

I've been using Rotella for years and tears but am always glad to hear these kind of anecdotes
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I've got a 100k mile bike that I'm running Synthetic Rotella (T5?) in. Funny that everyone says it's horrible for motorcycles, yet it actually has the JASO-MA rating, designating it as having passed the certification tests for motorcycle use.

No, I wouldn't run it in a high-performance street bike, or probably anything that I ever rev past 7k rpm, but it does fine in my Venture, and I change my oil fairly frequently. I do run a motorcycle-specific synthetic in my Trumpy though.


Again, I wouldn't use Rotella in anything that was high revving, or designated as "high performance". I guess if you were doing oil changes every 1k miles it might be negligible, but I have read that it breaks down fairly quickly. I'd like to do some lab tests on the Rotella synthetic I'm running in my Venture at 1000 mile intervals just to see how quickly it's deteriorating under the use it's seeing.

i still run the rotella in my higher-revving bikes. However, my trackbike gets an oil change every 2-3 trackdays, and I do my streetbikes every 1500-2k miles. Why? because I love working on my bike and for $20 an oil change, why not?
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i use amsoil motorcycle oil 10/quart. cheap and works great for me.
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...and? Those are highly paid salesmen, who would likely be just as competitive on a different machine.
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i still run the rotella in my higher-revving bikes. However, my trackbike gets an oil change every 2-3 trackdays, and I do my streetbikes every 1500-2k miles. Why? because I love working on my bike and for $20 an oil change, why not?
You said it right there. Jew oil for the cheap . Truth is I take care of my better than that. 1500 miles on Rotella should be fine but why? Why not put the right in it. Engine with Rotella put in it. What's causing all that? Could it be??

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i use amsoil motorcycle oil 10/quart. cheap and works great for me.
Your definition of "cheap" is apparently different than mine. At $12/gal for Rotella, I don't mind doing 2-3k mile oil changes.
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Your definition of "cheap" is apparently different than mine. At $12/gal for Rotella, I don't mind doing 2-3k mile oil changes.
Honestly unless it's peak riding season, 3-4 months goes by before I hit the 3k mark. Usually 1500-2500 and even less if it's the winter season.
So pretty much people's argument is that it breaks down after so many miles due to wet clutch/high RPM...but what about if you change your oil based on the time interval and not the mileage?

If I'm going to change my oil every 1500-2500 miles anyway due to the recommended 3-4 months having gone by, may as well use rotella.
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This x1000.

All BS aside, if you ran the out of an engine, all on rotella, tore it down and its all good... thats acceptable evidence for me.

I've been using Rotella for years and tears but am always glad to hear these kind of anecdotes
Its worth mentioning that I wasnt in the engine because it was hurt. I was in there to go bigger. It was when I did the 1441cc build
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Toe is going on and on like he knows of so many bearing failures resulting from the wrong oil. lol. It would be funny if it wasnt to ignorant.
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