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Old 06-12-2007, 01:56 PM   #81
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should we be learning about those things are learning about pleasing and oing his work. his pupose for putting us on earth was never to look at other worlds.
Yet, we should believe in for a life in a world after this one?... This sword seems to be sharp on both sides.
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Wow I can't believe it's still going on.
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Wow I can't believe it's still going on.
oh come on Crystal, threads with less debatable topics go on longer than expected.....this one probably has plenty of fuel left!
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Old 06-12-2007, 02:11 PM   #84
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oh come on Crystal, threads with less debatable topics go on longer than expected.....this one probably has plenty of fuel left!

HAHAHA!:laughing6 This one, my friend, he actually a never ending discussion.
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I feel like this thread has been going on for thousands of years.
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I feel like this thread has been going on for thousands of years.

Werd.... I wonder how many threads in here are of this same nature of discussion.
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well until December 21, 2012 according to some psychic believers.:icon_bigg
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To me there isnt enough common ground to have a debate on. These threads seem to jump so much on play on words and such that its hard to even answer the original question.
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To me there isnt enough common ground to have a debate on. These threads seem to jump so much on play on words and such that its hard to even answer the original question.


And I personally could care less about what an individual believes as long as it helps them to be a better person. I do like to get a rise out of people who like to stand on the belief soap box though.
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no one lives like christ does, so i guess we are all going to .

Wrong again! Living Christ-like does not mean that we are perfect. It means that we TRY to live like Christ. Christ was that sinless lamb, slain for our sins.
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And I personally couldn't care less about what an individual believes as long as it helps them to be a better person. I do like to get a rise out of people who like to stand on the belief soap box though.

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Wrong again! Living Christ-like does not mean that we are perfect. It means that we TRY to live like Christ. Christ was that sinless lamb, slain for our sins.

If he could do it, why can't you? :icon_bigg
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ive chosen not to dedicate my mind and faith to any one or any way of being but to learn from all the faiths, beliefs, etc. ive come to the conclusion that there exists a conciousness all around us, all the time. nothing has been left to chance. there is reason driving everything.

xianity, along with ANY 'organized religion', is arrogant, simple minded and is cheating itself, if xianity really, seriously thinks it can narrow something like , whatever may be, down into a book a few symbols and certain interpretations. how can you justify that? how can you actually follow something like that? if there is an existing eternal then someone please tell me how you can basically filter down into a label that is xianity, or islam or any of the other words we would try yet fail to describe what this conciousness is. thats all xianity is, a filter, a numbing agent to what the conciousness is and can be.

let me pose these questions.

was/is a christian? no.
was/is Jesus a christian? no.


Then why is it sooooo important that we follow this xian indoctrination or any template of beliefs for that matter in which we must constrict our way of thinking and living? why is it soooooo important that we title ourselves as any one constriction? Cmon people, Jesus was the ULTIMATE free thinking philosohper, the ultimate rebel, much like Socrates. do you really think he wanted people on their knees before him? nah. i think he wanted to teach and for others to learn and find inspiration. i think he wanted people asking questions and empowering themselves with knowledge. but was he more than man? who knows? was he larger than life? most definitely. do you think he or have ever been concerned with quibbling over labels and titles? of course not. they had more important issues on the table. the conciousness, , jesus, ALL of them are teaching us and you dont have to be a xian to learn from them. you dont have to be anything but you. just listen.

id like to think they all want you to indulge in that feeling of wonder and awe that ALL of us get from time to time and to learn all we can about anything we can. my feeling of wonder usually creeps in and finds a place right beneath my sternum. i think its the conciousness wanting me to ask something and to think for myself, not to get down onto my knees. i think they want us to try and figure out what were here for. the messages are subtle but they are all around us.

i could keep going but i wont.
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ive chosen not to dedicate my mind and faith to any one or any way of being but to learn from all the faiths, beliefs, etc. ive come to the conclusion that there exists a conciousness all around us, all the time. nothing has been left to chance. there is reason driving everything.

xianity, along with ANY 'organized religion', is arrogant, simple minded and is cheating itself, if xianity really, seriously thinks it can narrow something like , whatever may be, down into a book a few symbols and certain interpretations. how can you justify that? how can you actually follow something like that? if there is an existing eternal then someone please tell me how you can basically filter down into a label that is xianity, or islam or any of the other words we would try yet fail to describe what this conciousness is. thats all xianity is, a filter, a numbing agent to what the conciousness is and can be.

let me pose these questions.

was/is a christian? no.
was/is Jesus a christian? no.


Then why is it sooooo important that we follow this xian indoctrination or any template of beliefs for that matter in which we must constrict our way of thinking and living? why is it soooooo important that we title ourselves as any one constriction? Cmon people, Jesus was the ULTIMATE free thinking philosohper, the ultimate rebel, much like Socrates. do you really think he wanted people on their knees before him? nah. i think he wanted to teach and for others to learn and find inspiration. i think he wanted people asking questions and empowering themselves with knowledge. but was he more than man? who knows? was he larger than life? most definitely. do you think he or have ever been concerned with quibbling over labels and titles? of course not. they had more important issues on the table. the conciousness, , jesus, ALL of them are teaching us and you dont have to be a xian to learn from them. you dont have to be anything but you. just listen.

id like to think they all want you to indulge in that feeling of wonder and awe that ALL of us get from time to time and to learn all we can about anything we can. my feeling of wonder usually creeps in and finds a place right beneath my sternum. i think its the conciousness wanting me to ask something and to think for myself, not to get down onto my knees.

i could keep going but i wont.

Do you believe that we can have a personal relationship with ?
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well, i dont hold too many beliefs, but i think we can be in tune and harmonize with the conciousness. so yes.
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"remember the key point in science is the disprove there is a . "

Math would seem to exist more under the realm of 'science' than 'religion', it's math that provided a formula that demonstrated the existence of a greater being. ....provided I remember the article well enough. :-)
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"remember the key point in science is the disprove there is a . "

Math would seem to exist more under the realm of 'science' than 'religion', it's math that provided a formula that demonstrated the existence of a greater being. ....provided I remember the article well enough. :-)
in my opinion there has to be a greater existance. we've had religion since mesopotamia. theyve changed throughout the ages but the principles are the same. a greater existance. what this being is i dont think will ever be answered. so religious debates just seem pointless over something that cant be proven by physical evidence.
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