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Old 03-21-2015, 08:27 PM   #1
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Kawasaki Ninja 300 new vs 300/250 user

Hi,
I am about to buy my first bike and I am really in love in Kawasaki Ninja.
Buying new Kawasaki ninja 300 ABS from 2014 cost is about 5600. MRSP is 4500 but they include 399 Freight and 299 Handling(Team Mancuso). Is it common to add that high amount to the price of bike, even from 2014. They have already this in the stock. At least Freight should be 0.

Second option is buying a used one. Price range usually is from 2700 - 3300 for 250. Because I have zero experience. Is it the same amount of fun If I buy used 2500 instead. It will save me some cash at the begging and I don't have to pay handling and freight.

The only reason why i would like to buy new is that it's easy to maintain usually in first year.

Please correct me If I am saying something wrong.


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Old 03-21-2015, 08:57 PM   #2
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They have already this in the stock. At least Freight should be 0.
You always pay freight on any new bike that the dealer has. Do you have your motorcycle license?
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You always pay freight on any new bike that the dealer has. Do you have your motorcycle license?
No I don't. I have my classes next weekend.

You always have to pay Tax. I have done my homework and depending on dealer they can charge different freight. Even for the same bike the same dealer can charge different freight if he knows that customer will pay it. Basically he can give discount to customer about 100$ and increase freight 100$.

I've compared two Mancuos north and southwest and one charges 300, and second one 400. I don't know what they do special about it that handling and frieht is so high. It's more thanttax,doc and licence for ninja 300.

I don't want sound very greedy but because this is not a fixed price and it changes depending on salesman, it should be included somehow in MSRP, so you can haggle this before you go into financing/OTD.
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I paid $5,500 flat for my 2014 ABS model last year, right as the '14s hit the dealers. At Mainland Cycle Center. Would do it again in a heartbeat.
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Old 03-21-2015, 09:59 PM   #5
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I paid $5,500 flat for my 2014 ABS model last year, right as the '14s hit the dealers. At Mainland Cycle Center. Would do it again in a heartbeat.


you mean 5500 out of door Or you had to pay additional tax and dealer charges which would give probably flat 6500.

I am asking because I want to buy Ninja 300 2014 ABS SE and they list this bike for 4500 MSRB at Mainland Cycle Center and probably when you add all the fees it is 5500(500 tax + 500 freight and handling).

I just don't agree with high freight and handling, because when you buy a car you don't have to pay this.
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Hi,
I am about to buy my first bike and I am really in love in Kawasaki Ninja.
Buying new Kawasaki ninja 300 ABS from 2014 cost is about 5600. MRSP is 4500 but they include 399 Freight and 299 Handling(Team Mancuso). Is it common to add that high amount to the price of bike, even from 2014. They have already this in the stock. At least Freight should be 0.

Second option is buying a used one. Price range usually is from 2700 - 3300 for 250. Because I have zero experience. Is it the same amount of fun If I buy used 2500 instead. It will save me some cash at the begging and I don't have to pay handling and freight.

The only reason why i would like to buy new is that it's easy to maintain usually in first year.

Please correct me If I am saying something wrong.


Thanks for help

Just call a few dealerships that have the 300, see what they offer you.
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Hi,
I am about to buy my first bike and I am really in love in Kawasaki Ninja.
Buying new Kawasaki ninja 300 ABS from 2014 cost is about 5600. MRSP is 4500 but they include 399 Freight and 299 Handling(Team Mancuso). Is it common to add that high amount to the price of bike, even from 2014. They have already this in the stock. At least Freight should be 0.

Second option is buying a used one. Price range usually is from 2700 - 3300 for 250. Because I have zero experience. Is it the same amount of fun If I buy used 2500 instead. It will save me some cash at the begging and I don't have to pay handling and freight.

The only reason why i would like to buy new is that it's easy to maintain usually in first year.

Please correct me If I am saying something wrong.


Thanks for help
I'd suggest a used 300 or 250. You'll save a lot of money and won't be as mad if you drop it/ scratch it up. Plus, when you're ready to move on to another bike, you can sell it for about what you paid for it instead of taking the big depreciation hit. There are so many resources out there for doing basic maintenance on a bike that I would not worry about that. You will learn with time. Welcome to the addiction
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Freight is completely at the discretion of the dealer. They can charge whatever they want and you either have to pay or buy somewhere else. This is drawback to buying new, that and the immediate depreciation. Look around and typically you can find lady year models marked "out the door" which is discounted and includes freight, tax, and all other fees.
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Used is the way to go. Saw a cbr250 on CL this morning for 2200 and it was a 2012. Saved 4 grand right there. And no freight charges.
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Used 300 is good choice. I bought a new 300 SE ABS in 2013. Paid 6100 out the door with a warranty to boot. I called every Kawi dealer from Houston to San Antonio to Dallas (willing to drive for the right price). I used Cycle Trader to find all the dealers.

I took the lowest price and called the dealer closest to me to see if they would match. They did and that was that. Funny story they swapped for the bike from another dealer that gave me a higher price.
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Used. Then you have $ for insurance and gear.
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Every dealer is going to charge freight and prep. At least yours is reasonable. My dealer wants $600 for freight and $500 for prep for my new bike.
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Used. Then you have $ for insurance and gear.
Speaking of insurance, if you were going to be financing the new one, full coverage is outrageous compared to liability.

Personally Id buy cheap used and get liability on the bike, but full coverage personal injury.
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Everything is negotiable... Just negotiate the OTD price and don't wory about the individual costs.

As others have mentioned, used is probably the best way to go. You'll likely drop the bike at some point or want to sell it. Might as well let someone else take the 30-50% depreciation hit.

Good luck and please buy good gear.
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Speaking of insurance, if you were going to be financing the new one, full coverage is outrageous compared to liability.

Personally Id buy cheap used and get liability on the bike, but full coverage personal injury.
You dont have to have full coverage even when financing as long as the otd price is under i think 12 thousand. Also unless you bough a bike for under 3k i would at least have theft on the bike.

For the OP, i would definitely buy used, you save a lot of money up front. Plus in 6 month to a year your going to want something bigger and when you go to sell, you wont take as much of a loss if any loss if you go the used route. If you worried about what the previous owner did/didn't do in regards to maintenance have the seller meet you at a shop and have the shop give it a look over.

I bought my used 300 for a little over 2 thousands and im very happy with it
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used. period.

save money time and hassle. Just ask around here, or get a more knowledgeable friend to go with to check out a bike- or better yet, check out the used bikes on here.

Your first bike is rarely your last (if you continue riding), so dont worry about appeal right now and learn to ride! get a cheap 250 and wait 6 months, then get a newer, or bigger bike
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Thanks for all replies. I will go with used one like you suggested. This is a smart move.
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