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Old 06-11-2007, 03:22 PM   #41
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Well... If you guys think a Hayabusa weighs 500 pounds, you need to check again. The bike stock since 2002 weighs around 478 pounds. I have two configurations that I ride my bike in... One is how most of you have seen the bike, pretty much stock with a nice paint job. If you look closer you will see the minute' differences such as an absurd amount of titanium fasteners. They are in the little difference category but when you get extreme like I have, the little amounts all add up.

When I take the bike up to Deal's Gap or run the LOOP as it is known up there, its about a 400+ mile trip through the twistiest roads you cannot even imagine. Even just fathoming that Deal's Gap has 318 curves in 11 MILES is a bit much for anyone to understand unless they have seen it or been there. Nonetheless, when I got on a trip, I swap out a bunch of parts on my bike to make it more like a sportbike than just a sport-cruiser. All of these parts are purpose installed for either lighter weight or just performance.

Lets just agree that Suzuki advertises the Busa weighs 478 pounds. I removed the complete factory exhaust and took off 26.8 pounds by installing a TiForce Titanium exhaust. Not a cheap exhaust at $1400.00 for the full system when it first came out. Now I'm down to 451.2 pounds. I also removed all the emission system and P.A.I.R. valve. This removed another 3.8 pounds from the Busa netting me at 447.4 pounds. Changing out the Masters for the GSXR1000K7 masters dropped 2.1 pounds and also removing the rubber hoses with HEL teflon hoses gave me another .3 pound reduction. So we are at 445 pounds. I also have swapped out a 1999 Aluminum subframe which saves 11 pounds over the steel frame... now we are at 434 pounds and not much that is completely obvious. Another small reduction was the titanium front sprocket which dropped .9 pounds from the solid steel one. Add to that the difference in the ZZZ drilled lightweight chain and machined aluminum rear sprocket takes another 3.1 pounds off the Heavy Arsed Busa. Here we are at 430 pounds.

Now here is where I started the sick addiction to losing weight on the bike... Web Cams are hollow instead of solid thus much lighter and the titanium valve retainers are too. I actually forgot to weigh them because I was not the one who built the motor. So I am just guessing I lost another pound or so... give it to 429 pounds total.

When running the Mountains and not the Houston streets I have a set of BST Carbon wheels. These are a total of 16 pounds lighter than the stock wheels. I run the 180/55 Metzler M3 tire which is 1.3 pounds lighter than the Bridgestone Battlecrap the Busa comes with on the rear and .7 lighter than the front Battlecrap. So... lets see where this comes down to... 412 pounds. But weight... I mean, wait a minute.... Now the carbon rotor hats are another pound and the SRAD swingarm is 4 pounds lighter. The OPP Carbon Kevlar gas tank is 8 pounds lighter than stock too!

What do I have...???? 399 pounds! Not too far off the 400 I was claiming. Now, if I could only lose some fat around the waist, I could really be fast!!

Compare that to a GSXR1000K7 which is 380 pounds stock and it was 15 pounds lighter this year over last year's model... and soon you can see that a Hayabusa on a diet can be a lightweight toy for the street or track! If I lose the plastics and go with the Full OPP Carbon body, lose the full swingarm and go with the Single swingarm and lightweight Ohlins fronts with Brembo Calipers, I will lose another 28 pounds! Stay tuned... cause I will have it down there by the end of summer!

That is sick man. Very nice!
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Well... If you guys think a Hayabusa weighs 500 pounds, you need to check again. The bike stock since 2002 weighs around 478 pounds. I have two configurations that I ride my bike in... One is how most of you have seen the bike, pretty much stock with a nice paint job. If you look closer you will see the minute' differences such as an absurd amount of titanium fasteners. They are in the little difference category but when you get extreme like I have, the little amounts all add up.

When I take the bike up to Deal's Gap or run the LOOP as it is known up there, its about a 400+ mile trip through the twistiest roads you cannot even imagine. Even just fathoming that Deal's Gap has 318 curves in 11 MILES is a bit much for anyone to understand unless they have seen it or been there. Nonetheless, when I got on a trip, I swap out a bunch of parts on my bike to make it more like a sportbike than just a sport-cruiser. All of these parts are purpose installed for either lighter weight or just performance.

Lets just agree that Suzuki advertises the Busa weighs 478 pounds. I removed the complete factory exhaust and took off 26.8 pounds by installing a TiForce Titanium exhaust. Not a cheap exhaust at $1400.00 for the full system when it first came out. Now I'm down to 451.2 pounds. I also removed all the emission system and P.A.I.R. valve. This removed another 3.8 pounds from the Busa netting me at 447.4 pounds. Changing out the Masters for the GSXR1000K7 masters dropped 2.1 pounds and also removing the rubber hoses with HEL teflon hoses gave me another .3 pound reduction. So we are at 445 pounds. I also have swapped out a 1999 Aluminum subframe which saves 11 pounds over the steel frame... now we are at 434 pounds and not much that is completely obvious. Another small reduction was the titanium front sprocket which dropped .9 pounds from the solid steel one. Add to that the difference in the ZZZ drilled lightweight chain and machined aluminum rear sprocket takes another 3.1 pounds off the Heavy Arsed Busa. Here we are at 430 pounds.

Now here is where I started the sick addiction to losing weight on the bike... Web Cams are hollow instead of solid thus much lighter and the titanium valve retainers are too. I actually forgot to weigh them because I was not the one who built the motor. So I am just guessing I lost another pound or so... give it to 429 pounds total.

When running the Mountains and not the Houston streets I have a set of BST Carbon wheels. These are a total of 16 pounds lighter than the stock wheels. I run the 180/55 Metzler M3 tire which is 1.3 pounds lighter than the Bridgestone Battlecrap the Busa comes with on the rear and .7 lighter than the front Battlecrap. So... lets see where this comes down to... 412 pounds. But weight... I mean, wait a minute.... Now the carbon rotor hats are another pound and the SRAD swingarm is 4 pounds lighter. The OPP Carbon Kevlar gas tank is 8 pounds lighter than stock too!

What do I have...???? 399 pounds! Not too far off the 400 I was claiming. Now, if I could only lose some fat around the waist, I could really be fast!!

Compare that to a GSXR1000K7 which is 380 pounds stock and it was 15 pounds lighter this year over last year's model... and soon you can see that a Hayabusa on a diet can be a lightweight toy for the street or track! If I lose the plastics and go with the Full OPP Carbon body, lose the full swingarm and go with the Single swingarm and lightweight Ohlins fronts with Brembo Calipers, I will lose another 28 pounds! Stay tuned... cause I will have it down there by the end of summer!
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Well... If you guys think a Hayabusa weighs 500 pounds, you need to check again. The bike stock since 2002 weighs around 478 pounds. I have two configurations that I ride my bike in... One is how most of you have seen the bike, pretty much stock with a nice paint job. If you look closer you will see the minute' differences such as an absurd amount of titanium fasteners. They are in the little difference category but when you get extreme like I have, the little amounts all add up.

When I take the bike up to Deal's Gap or run the LOOP as it is known up there, its about a 400+ mile trip through the twistiest roads you cannot even imagine. Even just fathoming that Deal's Gap has 318 curves in 11 MILES is a bit much for anyone to understand unless they have seen it or been there. Nonetheless, when I got on a trip, I swap out a bunch of parts on my bike to make it more like a sportbike than just a sport-cruiser. All of these parts are purpose installed for either lighter weight or just performance.

Lets just agree that Suzuki advertises the Busa weighs 478 pounds. I removed the complete factory exhaust and took off 26.8 pounds by installing a TiForce Titanium exhaust. Not a cheap exhaust at $1400.00 for the full system when it first came out. Now I'm down to 451.2 pounds. I also removed all the emission system and P.A.I.R. valve. This removed another 3.8 pounds from the Busa netting me at 447.4 pounds. Changing out the Masters for the GSXR1000K7 masters dropped 2.1 pounds and also removing the rubber hoses with HEL teflon hoses gave me another .3 pound reduction. So we are at 445 pounds. I also have swapped out a 1999 Aluminum subframe which saves 11 pounds over the steel frame... now we are at 434 pounds and not much that is completely obvious. Another small reduction was the titanium front sprocket which dropped .9 pounds from the solid steel one. Add to that the difference in the ZZZ drilled lightweight chain and machined aluminum rear sprocket takes another 3.1 pounds off the Heavy Arsed Busa. Here we are at 430 pounds.

Now here is where I started the sick addiction to losing weight on the bike... Web Cams are hollow instead of solid thus much lighter and the titanium valve retainers are too. I actually forgot to weigh them because I was not the one who built the motor. So I am just guessing I lost another pound or so... give it to 429 pounds total.

When running the Mountains and not the Houston streets I have a set of BST Carbon wheels. These are a total of 16 pounds lighter than the stock wheels. I run the 180/55 Metzler M3 tire which is 1.3 pounds lighter than the Bridgestone Battlecrap the Busa comes with on the rear and .7 lighter than the front Battlecrap. So... lets see where this comes down to... 412 pounds. But weight... I mean, wait a minute.... Now the carbon rotor hats are another pound and the SRAD swingarm is 4 pounds lighter. The OPP Carbon Kevlar gas tank is 8 pounds lighter than stock too!

What do I have...???? 399 pounds! Not too far off the 400 I was claiming. Now, if I could only lose some fat around the waist, I could really be fast!!

Compare that to a GSXR1000K7 which is 380 pounds stock and it was 15 pounds lighter this year over last year's model... and soon you can see that a Hayabusa on a diet can be a lightweight toy for the street or track! If I lose the plastics and go with the Full OPP Carbon body, lose the full swingarm and go with the Single swingarm and lightweight Ohlins fronts with Brembo Calipers, I will lose another 28 pounds! Stay tuned... cause I will have it down there by the end of summer!

all i can say is.....post some pics of this beast. it sounds sick.
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I actually forgot to mention the Carbon velocity stacks and the cutout airbox. Oh wait... I added a couple pounds for the CRUISE CONTROL!! I better adjust my weight numbers again! I have a set of Vortex rearsets but they are uncomfortable for long trips because they have no isolation for vibration, so I remove them too. The reason I bought the trailer was so I could not waste an entire day swapping everything out just to go ride for two days in the mountains, then change everything back. Having the Busa comfort for making those trips makes it worth it all though... I cannot imagine running the 469 miles of the Blue Ridge Parkway in a rubber seat GSXR1000 or even a 600... It would just be too painful and not worth the tradeoff.
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You've lost a lot of weight, but you're giving yourself about a 65 lb. head start.:icon_bigg

From the Suzuki website:

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Engine: 1299cc, 4-stroke, four-cylinder, liquid-cooled, DOHC, 16-valve, TSCC
Bore Stroke: 81.0 x 63.0mm
Compression Ratio: 11.0:1
Fuel System: Keihin/Denso Fuel Injection
Lubrication: Wet sump
Ignition: Digital/Transistorized
Transmission: 6-speed, constant mesh
Final Drive: #530 chain
Overall Length: 2140mm (84.3 in.)
Overall Width: 740mm (29.1 in.)
Overall Height: 1155mm (45.5 in.)
Seat Height: 805mm (31.7 in.)
Ground Clearance: 120mm (4.7 in.)
Wheelbase: 1485mm (58.5 in.)
Dry Weight: 217kg (478 lbs.) 218kg (480 lbs.) CA. model

Dry weight is less all fluids including the battery and gas.

Suspension Front: Inverted telescopic, coil spring, fully adjustable spring preload, 14-way adjustable rebound damping and 13-way adjustable compression damping
Suspension Rear: Link-type, gas/oil damped, fully adjustable spring preload, 22-way adjustable compression & rebound damping
Brakes Front: Dual hydraulic disc
Brakes Rear: Single hydraulic disc
Tires Front: 120/70-ZR-17
Tires Rear: 190/50-ZR-17
Fuel Tank Capacity: 21 liter (5.5 gal.) 19.0 liter (5.0 gal.) CA. model
Color: Black, Red, Blue

Every where else on the web I've checked shows a actual measured wet weight of at least 540 lbs.

Impressive bike all the same!
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Tango1300.......Unless you've weighed it once b4....We got a big scale at my dads warehouse you can put it on. Take some pics of the weight and post it up

I'll weigh a bike if anyone wants me to just gotta let me ride it to the shop just kidding......but seriously its right off 290 and 43rd
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Comfort is a very personal thing, I've done 500+ mile days on my Busa, Duc and R1...........the bike that was PURE painful was the RC51.
300 miles on my RC and I was ready to park it and walk home.
But, I'll agree with Patrick, a stock Busa ready to roll is closer to 550 pounds.
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The busas are nice bikes. The 1000 is 440 lbs or something like that. Cant remember exactly but i remember reading it was by far the heaviest in its class.
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