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Old 06-11-2007, 10:22 AM   #1
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question about proper track gear

Would I be okay for the track if I got matching leather pants to zip into my vanson mark2 cobra?
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yep. that'll do. as long as they zip together you're fine.
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Depending on which group you ride in but usually a full zipper is required.
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must be a 360 degree zipper.
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I've been recently looking into Vanson leathers for the track. In fact I just tried some on at Northwest Honda this past Saturday. Mike was incredibly helpful. The quality is great but the zippers can give you a little trouble with getting what you need.

I have checked all the local track days and they only require that the leathers zip together. Not until you get into the more advanced skill levels/classes do some want full circumference zippers. And if you're racing, then you will need it for sure.

The problem with new Vansons (don't know about your jacket) is that they don't usually have a full zipper unless you get their street/track combo option. This is about $300 extra. Their regular stuff has a 3 point zipper system: 6 to 8 inches in the back and two 4 to 5 in zippers in the front. For Ridesmart, LSTD, Longhorn, and the new one out of Austin, this zipper system should be adequate except as I noted above.

You can probably take the jacket/pants to a seamstress, but be warned that the Vanson jackets have a funny cut that may make it really hard for them do it. There's not really a level zipper area all the way around because the front of the jacket is higher than the rear. You might be better off getting Vanson to do it. I think they may have to add some leather to the pants/jacket.

That said the Vanson technical sports rider pants were a great fit on me. They are well ventilated and well armored. They were comfortable in both a cruiser and sports bike position. My current non-perforated leathers do not fold well on a sports bike.

I'm really leaning toward Vansons myself.
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I figure that since I'm a noob, the pants/jacket combo will be good enough, after that if I get really into it, then full leather suit will be the next obvious step ... but if I can get away with just buy pants, then that's the fastest and cheapest way for me to go.

Also ... does anyone do track prep, or can show me how to get my bike track preped? I've read some things, but I'm a more hands on learner.
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Check around, there are lots of quality leathers available WITH a full circumference zipper for A LOT less than Vanson.
Fieldsheer and Alpinestar readily come to mind.
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I figure that since I'm a noob, the pants/jacket combo will be good enough, after that if I get really into it, then full leather suit will be the next obvious step ... but if I can get away with just buy pants, then that's the fastest and cheapest way for me to go.

Also ... does anyone do track prep, or can show me how to get my bike track preped? I've read some things, but I'm a more hands on learner.
I think you'll be fine with Vansons that zip together with the 3 point system. They're so well made anyway.

Track prep isn't hard for a street bike. Just taping up the lights and removing the mirrors and license plate. That and your bike has to be up to the basic mechanical specs: brakes, no leaks, good tires, etc.
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Patrick's right. You can probably get a whole suit for less than the Vanson pants. See my thread in the gear section regarding the Field sheer. Personally I'm really looking to buy American-made leathers right now. That's why I'm considering the Vansons.
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for the noob day, you don't really need to do much.

change the oil, check chain tension, lube the chain, check tire pressures, full tank of gas, remove mirrors, tape up all lights, remove all reflectors, and i recommend flushing the coolant and replacing with water wetter and distillled water. it also wouldn't be a bad idea to flush out your old brake fluid, replace with new, and check your pads to make sure they're in good shape, with plenty of life left.
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Vanson used to be American made til last year when they added some foreign made jackets for about $150 less. Also, Vanson jackets are cut to have a little belly space, not athletic cut like some other brands.
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