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Old 06-10-2007, 12:35 PM   #1
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Crash Question maybe a Poll?

Friday I took off early from work to meet some guys I had never ridden with before. One guy riding a brand new 600RR, two on HD big cruisers. We rode up to Lake Livingston and rode through some of the back roads up there. Pretty nice riding!

Okay so about 10 minutes into riding the back rodes one of the guys on a brand new HD behind me straighten out a left hand curve. He wasn't hurt very bad and we straightened out stuff on his bike enough for him to ride it back home. We were going about 40 mph. I probably could have made that curve at about 80mph.

Here's the question that was prompted in my mind as we rode back home.
I'd actually think it would be advantagous to make this a poll.

What do you think the top 10 reasons are for people to crash their bike?

After the crash and resting and cooling down after wrestling with his bike I found out that he had about 2000 miles on his bike and had never owned a bike before.
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Old 06-10-2007, 12:46 PM   #2
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1 alcohol/drugs
2 not mature enough to handle the responsability
3 inexperiance/no msf/not enough saddle time
4 trying to be cool/impress
5 riding beyond your limits/too fast a pace
6 mechanical negligence. i.e. riding on bad tires, etc
7 cagers not paying attention. i.e. not bikers fault
8 bad roads/unavoidable weather conditions
9 last name is "pedrosa"

and finnally

10 being named clayton, and stunting within 100 yards of cactus. :laughing6 lol, sorry clayton jus teasin bro
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Old 06-10-2007, 12:50 PM   #3
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a brand new HD
looks like this one falls under #6, mechanical negligence
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Old 06-10-2007, 12:51 PM   #4
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1 alcohol/drugs
2 not mature enough to handle the responsability
3 inexperiance/no msf/not enough saddle time
4 trying to be cool/impress
5 riding beyond your limits/too fast a pace
6 mechanical negligence. i.e. riding on bad tires, etc
7 cagers not paying attention. i.e. not bikers fault
8 bad roads/unavoidable weather conditions
9 last name is "pedrosa"
10 being named clayton, and stunting within 100 yards of cactus. lol, sorry clayton jus teasin bro
11 Riding with too many saddle bags that limits your lean angle to 25%
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Old 06-10-2007, 12:58 PM   #5
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1. riding outside of limits
2. road conditions are shitty
3. cagers cause the accident
4. riding on poorly maintained equipment
5. riding on crappy equipment IE shitzukis and funky looking choppers
6. alcohol
7. trying to stunt or do something stupid that you arent capable of doing
8. debri on road
9. riding w/o full face helmet and catching in the eyes causing some blindness
10. animals on country roads IE deer, hogs, buzzards, coons, possums, rabbits and bigfoot.
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Old 06-10-2007, 01:00 PM   #6
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10 being named clayton, and stunting within 100 yards of cactus. :laughing6 lol, sorry clayton jus teasin bro
:laughing6 :laughing6 :laughing6 true true..

or just being named clayton.. thats a crash waiting to happen
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Old 06-10-2007, 01:23 PM   #7
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1. speed unsuited to conditions and or rider ability
2. see above

Go back and read thru some/most of the recent accidents. Even in the cases of car and/or road hazard involvement, a slower speed would have negated the crash.
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1. too much bike not enough brains
2. maturinty factor
3. drugs alchy
4. Crash bars
5. too much speed
6. too much brakes
7. TARGET FIXATION!!!!!!!!!
8. Road conditions
9. Cagers
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Old 06-10-2007, 02:24 PM   #9
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I'm assuming you are all listing these in order of priority?

How about just not paying attention?
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I'm assuming you are all listing these in order of priority?

How about just not paying attention?
that would fall under maturity and rider education. if you on a bike you must pay attention, and sometimes you learn that the hard way.
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Old 06-10-2007, 02:36 PM   #11
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1. riding outside of limits
2. road conditions are shitty
3. cagers cause the accident
4. riding on poorly maintained equipment
5. riding on crappy equipment IE shitzukis and funky looking choppers
6. alcohol
7. trying to stunt or do something stupid that you arent capable of doing
8. debri on road
9. riding w/o full face helmet and catching in the eyes causing some blindness
10. animals on country roads IE deer, hogs, buzzards, coons, possums, rabbits and bigfoot.
I am going to have to agree with this guy and #1 is most accidents read the Hurt report summery.

I would also reverse 2and 3.
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1-10 speed is to high to properly react to the situation


period.
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Driver NOT being a good passenger on his/her own motorcycle!
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In his case I'd guess: Not knowing how countersteering works and not being seasoned enough to understand that leaning harder helps making a turn (even on a cruiser).

I was on a ride where a noob rider also failed to make a fairly easy 40mph turn and she admitted panicking and straightening up the bike when she probably shouldn't have...
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Target fixation
No MSF to learn to counter-steer
Road conditions
Speed
Riding a HD

oh and putting tons of stickers on your bike for brands of parts you wish you had and could make the corner if you did.

Boo for posers!
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Lack of attention to detail...
(too much speed for road conditions (Traffic, debris, road state etc))
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Just like at the track, corner entrance speed causes most accidents.
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Looks like everyone covered it.
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1. Running out of talent! (or so my 5 year-old tells me... "Daddy, why did you crash?" Well, I don't know, I guess I was going to fast. "Did you run out of talent?")
or running out of road and ideas at the same time
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