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Old 03-17-2015, 11:29 AM   #41
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Thanks for the info I'm going to start this job either tonight or tomorrow night...I just need to empty out my gas tank a little more, so it will be easier to remove

I will keep everyone posted on the progress. I haven't decided if I will do the adjustment yet and will probably wait until I check them to decide, in order to REALLY see what all is involved. It's not that I don't think I could do it, I'm just not up for some total PITA job. Although sometime's it seems jobs like this can be blown out of proportion, but I won't really know until I start taking it all apart. Seems like checking them isn't too much harder than changing the air filter, which I did already.

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Old 03-17-2015, 12:16 PM   #42
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I have a nice Excel spreadsheet to calculate the needed shim sizes and it even graphs the clearances against the specs (my bike's specs that is) if anyone wants a copy
Wait, you don't just eyeball the shim size?

I'll gladly take your spreadsheet.
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Old 03-18-2015, 07:55 AM   #43
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I started this last night. Went to Vato Zone and got feeler gauges, then took off the tank, took off the bolts in the crank case for the TDC indicator. When I got to the cylinder head, I noticed there are two lines. One for the spark plug and the other looks like a fuel line.

I'm pretty sure I just rip the ignition wire out, but what about the fuel line?

Oh and if only there were some sort of special tool for removing the spark plug...gonna have to get a hold of something.
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Old 03-19-2015, 07:38 PM   #44
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Looks like 5/8 will need adjustment, but I am about to remeasure and write it all down...

I really didn't sign up for all this

My feeler gauges only go down to .004, which is also the lowest tolerance. I guess i would need to get smaller gauges now to make the adjustment?

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Old 03-19-2015, 09:11 PM   #45
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How are we supposed to knw?
I'm so sorry if we don't sit around in a tin foil hat, eating MRE's and memorizing valve clearance procedures. Besides I haven't checked my valves in like, 2 years anyway.
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Need valve adjustment advice? Lmgtfy
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It's a prrtty irritating response to a question you ask during a discussion isn't it?
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Not really, since I'm just messing with you it just makes me laugh. You asked a question and then responded to yourself, lol
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Kids these days who use forum slang call that a "bump"
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Whelp, I looked up how to do this valve job and holy royal pain in the batman!

Look at this . Don't read it, just look...

http://www.bluepoof.com/motorcycles/howto/svs_valves/

I've got to do five valves like this?!

What a crock of . Why would anyone make a motorcycle this way?! I'm thinking about putting it back together, selling this POS and getting a bike with hydraulic adjusters.
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I might need some of that too by the time I finish this job
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I've got to do five valves like this?!
One cylinder has 3 and the other only 2?
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8 valves total but only 5 are out of spec. The other ones are pretty tight as well. I may just do all 8
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Seriously though I might just put it back together and sell it
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8 valves total but only 5 are out of spec. The other ones are pretty tight as well. I may just do all 8
You don't really want tight valves. You want them about the middle of the spec range. Some folks adjust them to the largest number in spec and leave it since valves tighten up over time.
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You don't really want tight valves. You want them about the middle of the spec range. Some folks adjust them to the largest number in spec and leave it since valves tighten up over time.
Yeah that's what I was saying.
only 5 are actually out of spec, but since the other 3 were a little tight I was thinking about adjusting those as well to make them all on the loose end of the range.

Anyways the next phase of this is likely going to involve me blowing a bunch of money and kicking back drinking a brewski while someone else does the valves.
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Looks like it's not more involved than any other valve adjustment. You need to look at a service manual if you're going to pull out the cams and continue. You're next step is to remove the cams and begin swapping out shims that will allow you to loosen up those tight clearances. You can make all the needed shim replacements while the cams are out. If you can't get your smallest feeler in than you may need some that go smaller. I guess you could try a smaller shim and re-measure to get a reference point, but that adds extra work. I don't know how tight your valves are. PM me if you have questions. I can try to help as best I can.
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