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Old 06-23-2005, 02:53 PM   #1
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HOW TO WHEELIE

I just got done writing this for stuntlife.com, and I thought I would post it here too.

First of all, I learned all of this from my own experience and from the advice of others on the stuntlife forum. Following this advice wonít keep you from crashing, getting hurt, and breaking stuff; but it will, most likely, help you learn faster while crashing less often than if you figure everything out on your own.

Bike setup for wheelies

Oil: Many bikes will become oil starved when riding long wheelies, and doing 12 o-clock wheelies. Gixxers and cbr 900s (899cc model) are the most notorious for this. To keep the bike from becoming oil starved, either move the oil pickup in the oil pan back, or simply overfill the oil. Myself and some others on the stuntlife forum run 1 quart over without any problems (that I know of).

Gears: For learning, gearing the bike down is unnecessary. Almost every sportbike will wheelie in first gear without any problem (maybe the ex250 is an exception). Also gearing to make second gear come up easier is kind of pointless because it just becomes more like first gear with big sprockets. If it doesnít wheelie in first gear, it isnít the bikeís fault. For the most part, gears are unnecessary until you are ready to learn highchairs (on a weak 600), no throttle hand wheelies, and circles.

Tires: When doing high-speed wheelies make sure you have a good rear tire. A tire with a flat spot in the middle can cause wobbles. I learned wheelies on a rear tire that was almost down to the cords in the middle, and it would often wobble like crazy when doing balance point wheelies. A new tire almost completely eliminated that problem. Run the tire pressure lower than stock. For doing wheelies above 20 mph, have the tire pressure between 20 and 30psi. For doing wheelies slower than 20 mph, lower the pressure to between 12 and 20. Lower tire pressure makes the wheelie more stable from side to side.

Tip over sensor: Most (or all, Iím not sure) bikes with fuel injection have a tip over sensor. This can cause the bike to shut off when riding wheelies high. This should be disabled. For Hondas this can be done by cutting the wires going into the sensor, connecting the two outer wires, and leaving the middle one hanging. For gixxers, that method doesnít work. The brass ring in the sensor must be removed, or immobilized with something such as silicone.

Steering Damper: While it isnít imperative that you have a steering damper for doing wheelies, it might save your . If you come down from a wheelie with the front wheel crooked, it could cause a tank slapper. This shouldnít be a problem, though; if you make sure the front wheel is strait when you put it down.

Exhaust pipe: If learning 12s, the pipe may have to be shortened. The stock pipes on some bikes touch the ground at about the same time as the tail when doing a 12 o-clock wheelie. If the pipe hits the ground, it may cause you to crash. My friend just went down a week ago because of this. The pipe can be shortened by simply cutting a few inches off the end of the pipe, and then re-welding / re-riveting the end of the pipe back on. Short pipes can also be bought from www.starboyz.com.

Cage: In the process of learning to ride wheelies good, you will most likely drop your bike. Crash cages provide the best protection. All of these cages will most likely save you a lot of money if you crash, but none of them will completely protect your bike in every crash. Here is a list of some crash cage websites in no particular order.
MXD cages http://eclipsebusiness.net/mxdcages.com/
Racing 905 Cages http://www.racing905.com
Powers Cages http://www.powersbikeworx.com/
Freestyle Ingenuity Cages http://www.freestyleingenuity.com/
Wicked Crew Extreme Team's Cages http://cantcuffus.com/cages_pics.htm

12 bar: Install a 12 bar if you plan on learning 12s. There was some debate as to whether or not to learn 12s with a 12 bar. I learned 12s with a bar and didnít have any problems. You just need to be more careful because a bar is less forgiving than plastic. However, I think tail sections cost way too much to smash on purpose. You can buy 12 bars from Racing 905 or Freestyle Ingenuity. They are also pretty simple to build yourself, at a fraction of the cost.

Protection: Wear a helmet, jacket, jeans, and gloves if you donít want to get messed up.


Before riding wheelies on a bike
If you have access to a quad, a dirt bike, or a fiddy, learn wheelies on that first. What you learn about throttle control and the balance point will help you in learning to ride a wheelie on a bike. If youíre ready to learn on a bike then: 1. Make sure the rear brake works and adjust the lever to a comfortable height. 2. There should be 1in. of play in chain slack. A chain too tight or too loose will wear out the chain and sprockets faster than normal. 3. Make sure there are no cracks in the foot pegs, and make sure all of the bolts are tight.

Speed and riding position for learning wheelies
I recommend that beginners learn wheelies if first gear. It is easier to launch the wheelie in first gear, and it hurts much less and breaks less stuff when you crash. There is more engine breaking in first gear. This means that you can ride a wheelie higher without the danger of looping it. It is also much easier to go from riding out first gear wheelies to second gear wheelies than vice versa. The only downfall to learning wheelies in first vs. seconds is that the wheelie wonít be as smooth. The throttle will feel much more sensitive. Fifteen mph is a good speed to launch wheelies while learning; any slower and the wheelie may feel unstable to a beginner. I also recommend learning wheelies standing up with the left foot on the passenger peg, and the right foot on the front peg, covering the brake. While it may feel awkward at first to wheelie while standing, it will be easier after you get used to that part. Most people think it is easier to balance and control a wheelie standing up vs. sitting down. It is also easier to launch the wheelie from standing up.

Why clutching wheelies is the best method for launching wheelies
Clutching is by far the best way to get wheelies up, regardless of whether the bike has enough power to power it up. While it does wear out clutch plates a little faster than normal, the difference is not significant. I also have never read about any major problems as the result of the extra tension on the drive train. There are many advantages to clutching wheelies vs. powering wheelies. 1. It allows you to wheelie bikes that donít have enough power to power it up. 2. You can wheelie at lower rpmís, and therefore slower speeds. This allows beginners to keep a wheelie up longer, with out being at the balance point. 3. The launch is more predictable. When powering a wheelie up, the front end comes up relatively slow. Then when the front end is about 3 feet off the ground, the front end jumps up very fast under full throttle, making for a scary and unpredictable launch. When clutching up wheelies right, the front jumps up close to the balance point. From there you just play with the throttle to fine adjust the height. After a little practice, clutching becomes very predictable and not frightening at all. 4. All of the pros that I know of clutch every wheelie. You want to be like them donít you?

How to clutch wheelies
There are a couple different methods for clutching wheelies. I prefer the second method.
Method 1: First accelerate with the clutch engaged. Then, with the throttle still opened, pull in the clutch with one finger, to the point where the clutch disengages. With the engine still under throttle, quickly let the clutch back out as the tach is rising.
Method 2: Close the throttle, and then pull the clutch in all the way, with one finger. Then twist the throttle and dump the clutch.
When learning to clutch, only rev up the engine a little bit at first before letting out the clutch. This will give you the feel for clutching. Then gradually increase the rpmís before dumping the clutch, until the front end jumps up close to the balance point. Reduce the throttle as the front end comes up to the balance point. If it comes up too far, gently push the rear brake to bring the bike back forward. When clutching second and third gear wheelies, the bike may need extra help, depending on what bike it is. If clutching alone doesnít get the wheelie up, then bounce at the same time. This is done by pushing down on the bike at the same time you open the throttle, then pulling back at the same time you drop the clutch.

Shifting gears
I donít recommend shifting gears during a wheelie unless you are good at wheelies, and are able to use the clutch in the process. Otherwise, shifting during wheelies is hard on the transmission. It is also hard on the fork seals if you miss a shift. My advice is to learn to ride wheelies at a constant speed. Then there will be no need to shift.
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Re: HOW TO WHEELIE

and NO i did not write that,, got it from R1 forum
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Here another site of some details..... http://stunters.com/tips-tech_wheelies.html
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I'll have to give it a try, I can never get it.
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Re: HOW TO WHEELIE

just try gettin the wheel off the ground for now,, i could bring the front up on my gixxer6 in the first three gears standing and bouncing even at real low speeds,, and that thing was quite a bit heavier than yours , but try it small to start with


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steve.. you got some funny avatars!!!!!!! they spelled intimidate wrong..

Zapata had a good link that i printed out and it showed how to high chair, endo, etc.... i think it was called like "howd they do that" or something.. RObert, can you repost it buddy
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I can pop it up but would like to ride them out. I guess i need to practice and hang with soem pros.
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hahah.. talk to bao hes got it mastered. im still learning.
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hahah.. talk to bao hes got it mastered. im still learning.

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Bao's a pro.* He showed us all off tonight.* *
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That fool rockin all the way down ASI.
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yup pro... so from now on direct all yalls wheelie questions to him.

I hear you're a pro so I can ask you. :laughing6:
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hahah.. talk to bao hes got it mastered. im still learning.

Bao's a pro. He showed us all off tonight.
see i told you. now u can learn from him
They just haven't seen you boss.. My wheelies are super fast and out of control. If you want to learn some nice, slow, and smooth wheelies talk to Din. Plus his bike looks way better in a wheelie.
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haha! I gotta see pro Din stunt it up.
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yeah i dont know how bao gets that RR up. its a it just doesnt want to come up. Ill practice more when i have money to fix it when i crash.
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steve.. you got some funny avatars!!!!!!! they spelled intimidate wrong..

Zapata had a good link that i printed out and it showed how to high chair, endo, etc.... i think it was called like "howd they do that" or something.. RObert, can you repost it buddy
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