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Old 03-08-2015, 09:21 AM   #1
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TL 1000 R

Well I've researched ... looked... watched.
I figured if ask the majority by asking on a true rider site! So what are yalls opinions on the 01 TL1000R? Found one at a "needs work as is" price which seems somewhat reasonable. What do they normally go for when in "fair running" condition? Thanks!!
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Old 03-08-2015, 10:10 AM   #2
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It's a buyers market for those.

Known issues..

underpowered, heavy, junk rear shock, poor wiring,

But, all that is fixable.

Enough time and money you can make them a great handling, lighter bike.. that still is a bit underpowered by todays standards...

Heres mine after wayy too much investment...

And a vid of it with a couple GSXR's chasing....

http://www.motohouston.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=292596

It does sound good with a aftermarket exhaust.
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+1 to the above, the market is very small for those bikes, how ever if you are willing to hold out for the right buyer, a nice example like tex's bike can bring a nice price.
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Old 03-08-2015, 11:34 AM   #4
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Great bike once minor issues fixed as mentioned above. VERY hard to find an original condition example.
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Old 03-08-2015, 11:45 AM   #5
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I wanted one for a while. I couldn't get past the weight and lack of power. Other than the sound, there was nothing I couldn't find in a gsxr and a gsxr does it all better
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its definitely a niche bike. Parts are getting increasingly difficult to find. Are they faster than a modern 600? no. heavy? yes. "old" by todays standards, yes. Do i enjoy riding mine? fk yes! will i ever sell it? no. I will never get even 1/2 of the money and time that has gone into it.
Its s a bit on the heavy side, but it cruises and hugs the twisties well.

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Yea well I am not the everyday rider like some of you probably may be but I do ride once n a while....been a long while since I have last anyhow haha. I have yet to see the bike in person but the seller says needs front tire, brakes and battery. Claims is low miles ...10,000 ... hasn't been ridden much, sits n garage. That's the just of the info that I've gotten. Pretty much all I have left to do is go look. If all sounds fair at idle, I'll drive to see if it runs smooth. I'd figure for the asking price, I'll have something to tier on n the garage and drive to work. Or fix n sell if I don't like the ride.
Maybe I'm out of the scene but I hardly ever see these bikes!! Maybe they're discontinued for a reason? I don't know the truth as to why but they're Def a distinctive sound for a street bike!
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I have the TL 1000S....love it....underpowered? Compared to a Busa...sure...lots of torque though...be sure the stabilizer is on...check for leaks around the fuel pump...and check for oil leaks...TL stands for ticks and leaks
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Yeah, I used to love the TLRs but nowadays I think I'd go for the TLS.
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I have the TL 1000S....love it....underpowered? Compared to a Busa...sure...lots of torque though...be sure the stabilizer is on...check for leaks around the fuel pump...and check for oil leaks...TL stands for ticks and leaks
Yeah.... 110hp is pretty low for a SS 1000 that weighs over 500 lbs,
The TLS is tuned more for low end; the R doesn't start making good ooomph til 6k or so.

Especially after I jump off my other bikes making 175-186 hp... it definately feels weak.

Losing 70 lbs, adding radial brakes and much better suspension does make it fun on the backroads tho.....
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Yeah.... 110hp is pretty low for a SS 1000 that weighs over 500 lbs,
The TLS is tuned more for low end; the R doesn't start making good ooomph til 6k or so.

Especially after I jump off my other bikes making 175-186 hp... it definately feels weak.

Losing 70 lbs, adding radial brakes and much better suspension does make it fun on the backroads tho.....
Yeah...see your point....i still like the TL over any gsxr ive owned...just an all around fun bike...i got rid of the rotary dampner suspension and have an Ohlins with the 98 stabilizer and tlr front brakes
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Lots of good info ... I appreciate it! Hopefully the weather will hold off long enough for me to check it out tomorrow...

But keep them comin! I Def will try to look for leaks, odd noises, and how well that clutch holds on!
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Check and make sure it doesn't jump out of 2nd gear or "chatter" when hard on the gas in 2nd. The rotary damper will probably be blown out.

I like this as well. The yellow 98' was always my favorite.. I wouldn't mind having one actually... But yes they are slow as and any decent running R6 will spank you. But they won't look or sound that good.
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Due to the torque reduction clutch, on a tls...not sure about thr R, it may feel like it is slipping when you get on it....design flaw...you should check out tlplanet.com for more info...
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Yea from what I understand it retards timing in the first...3? Gears.... unless u do the freebie mod which food the bike to believe ur in a higher gear so u can nail it at any given time.... so I've read

I'm not a expert rider so knowing it's slower than most newer bikes is ok with me! Long as she looks the part!
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brakes and suspension... almost forgot about that. 6 pot tokicos SUCK, even with an brembo R1 master. I've got some old 4 pot nissins off a bandit. suspension is... well i wouldnt take it around a demanding track. cruising is ok. push it and it'll show weakness. busa/gsxr 1000 fork/radial with race-tech is highly recommended. Rear: ohlins or CBR600 F3 shock with 900-950 lbs spring. gearing is too tall. IIRC i went +1 or +2 in the rear. Barnet HD clutch springs will improve lever feel and engagement. or go cable conversion.

electrical mod/fix helps a TON.

I need to go work on mine. daylight savings/warming weather may give me the kick in the pants I need to get out there.

Your probably seeing a trend here.. out the box is meh. especially by todays standards. but a few mods/fixes will get it running/handling good. sound/looks are unique.
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brakes and suspension... almost forgot about that. 6 pot tokicos SUCK, even with an brembo R1 master. I've got some old 4 pot nissins off a bandit. suspension is... well i wouldnt take it around a demanding track. cruising is ok. push it and it'll show weakness. busa/gsxr 1000 fork/radial with race-tech is highly recommended. Rear: ohlins or CBR600 F3 shock with 900-950 lbs spring. gearing is too tall. IIRC i went +1 or +2 in the rear. Barnet HD clutch springs will improve lever feel and engagement. or go cable conversion.

electrical mod/fix helps a TON.

I need to go work on mine. daylight savings/warming weather may give me the kick in the pants I need to get out there.

Your probably seeing a trend here.. out the box is meh. especially by todays standards. but a few mods/fixes will get it running/handling good. sound/looks are unique.

So what ur saying is ...if/once I get it, drop it by ur place and u will have it running and handling like a true superbike!!

So if this thing isn't a total hunk uh junk it'll be n my garage this week! I am gonna have to modify my 4x6 utility trailer to pick this thing up Cuz it looks like the weather may be crappy a while...
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TLR is a hydraulic clutch; some people convert to the S cable setup (I did)
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Options for rear are Biturbo, Ohlins or Penske if you can find one
Front, Busa forks bolt in, 08+ have radial brakes and better internals, upgrade to Racetech even better
Later model wheels save significant weight, and you need for radials on the front anyhow
Eccentrics for the swingarm help on the squat
The R is a little heavy on the steering, so changing geometry helps, but you need a good steering damper "just in case" it decides to shake its head.. the S was more twitchy in that respect
debaffle the airbox, CBR injectors, TRE to remove the lower gear , +mod on the coils, drop the gearing down a couple teeth.. and a good exhaust system (pipe is pinched severly on left side by the chain
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