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Old 07-01-2005, 03:11 PM   #121
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Re: July 29th at TWS (Texas World Speedway)...

yeah Moody, you might see me go down again :newbie:
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Old 07-01-2005, 04:50 PM   #122
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Re: July 29th at TWS (Texas World Speedway)...

hey, javier, i heard my dvd has your wreck in it :eh:
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Re: July 29th at TWS (Texas World Speedway)...

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We have moved you up to the B-group for the 29th.
and then there were five...
henry
james
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who else is riding in 'b' group w/us?
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Old 07-01-2005, 06:49 PM   #124
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hey, javier, i heard my dvd has your wreck in it :eh:

hahahahaahhaahahahahaha!

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Old 07-01-2005, 10:11 PM   #125
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hmmm...that's one dvd I wouldn't buy..
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:26 PM   #126
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Re: July 29th at TWS (Texas World Speedway)...

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We have moved you up to the B-group for the 29th.
and then there were five...
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who else is riding in 'b' group w/us?

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Old 07-01-2005, 10:42 PM   #127
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Re: July 29th at TWS (Texas World Speedway)...

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We have moved you up to the B-group for the 29th.
and then there were five...
henry
james
moody
steve
arturo

who else is riding in 'b' group w/us?
hey henry i think at the last track day mr moody and i had talked about me helping him with a couple corners...... so you might see me out there in b group as well...... if thats ok :dontknow:
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Old 07-01-2005, 11:06 PM   #128
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Re: July 29th at TWS (Texas World Speedway)...

also for anyone who cares to read..... in my opinion B group is probably the most dangersous group on the track.... in this sport there tends to be EGO problems. this explains my opinion above. you take a guy he rides in c group his first time feels like he shouldnt be there because this aint cool man i'm in the beginer group i'm no beginer..... blah blah blha but he doesnt have the skill nor mental ability to move up to b, so he does anyway next time. now you take away the instuctors being up your the whole 20 minute session put the guy on the bike and tell him to go get it, you now have a guy by no fault of the organization out there on the track trying to prove something to somebody putting other people in danger. i have riding in all groups, if you want to go fast ride in c until you are smooth entering, mid and exiting the corner.. your lines should flow.... everything should come easy you shouldnt feel like you have to work the bike..... then take a B see how you feel. and move into A. if you plan to stay in this sport you better get used to being passed and passed close..... riding in A group is not as SCARY or as big of step as some make it seem. everything flows in that group.... you have fast guys really fast guys, and then some moderatly fast just track day guys..... A group gives you time to focus on your riding and not everyone else's. you can concentrate on being more smooth, picking up entry speed everyting that you need to work on with out worrying about the guy in front of you parking it in the corner, or somebody running you off the track by not holding there line. riding on the track becomes way more fun when its about you and not you worrying about everyone else.


sorry for the post i just was reading some previous and had thought that some people werent sure on what group to be in. i got the impression that people think that A group means you have to be a sub 2 minute guy and that is not right at all..... ride where you feel comfortable but do not be scared or intimmidated to move up.

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* hey henry* *i think at the last track day mr moody and i had talked about me helping him with a couple corners...... so* * you might see me out there in b group as well......* if thats ok :dontknow:
woohoo!!!... if i can keep up i'll be takin notes too!... *right: *:
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whatever i'm only on a little sv you got that big o 1000... should be no problem for ya...
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Re: July 29th at TWS (Texas World Speedway)...

suprpronov214, are you talking about me and how i shouldnt move up? :dontknow:

you post got me dizzy with all the spaces in between sentences and "...."
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, you're right.* :laughing6:
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Re: July 29th at TWS (Texas World Speedway)...

I think what Brandon is trying to say is this; if you've never been to the track don't be in a huge rush to get out of C group / not take C group at all. After a couple of times in C group and you know the track fairly well, then bump up to B.
That said, once you're in B and you've done the track a couple of time at some speed and can hold your lines because you know where you're going, B don't be afraid to move up to A, just expect to be passed closer there. B group presents challenges because the skill level there is very diverse. Closing speeds entering the corner can sometimes be tricky when the rider in front of you is slamming on the brakes because he doesn't know where he is on the track.
Which is why a rider should stay in C to be able to learn the track, but a lot of riders let their ego negate the learning opportunity that C group provides.
If you're really unsure that the group you are in is right for you, ask one of the LSTD instructors to evaluate how you're riding.


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Re: July 29th at TWS (Texas World Speedway)...

hmmm...sounds like some good advice around here!
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I think what Brandon is trying to say is this; if you've never been to the track don't be in a huge rush to get out of C group / not take C group at all. After a couple of times in C group and you know the track fairly well, then bump up to B.
That said, once you're in B and you've done the track a couple of time at some speed and can hold your lines because you know where you're going, B don't be afraid to move up to A, just expect to be passed closer there. B group presents challenges because the skill level there is very diverse. Closing speeds entering the corner can sometimes be tricky when the rider in front of you is slamming on the brakes because he doesn't know where he is on the track.
Which is why a rider should stay in C to be able to learn the track, but a lot of riders let their ego negate the learning opportunity that C group provides.
If you're really unsure that the group you are in is right for you, ask one of the LSTD instructors to evaluate how you're riding.


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ok good. then your not talking about me. see yuou in group B!
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Old 07-02-2005, 07:45 PM   #137
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keke wut up brandon
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Re: July 29th at TWS (Texas World Speedway)...

to piggy back on what brandon and patrick said.. which is great advice for those thinking they're the .* YOURE NOT!* and you dont have to be, there's no need to be, you're not getting a trophy.* I can use myself as an example I guess.* I can run well under two minutes, but ive actually ridden B group more than anything.* Is it cuz im scared to move up? NOPE. Is it cuz im not fast enough and cant hang w/the big boys? NOPE.* I ride B because its the group I feel best at without having to do all that hauling you do in A.* I have ridden A various times too and I pass plenty of people in that group, but even though I can and have done it, I still ride B mostly.* I feel like I can work on my lines, braking, form, etc. in this group better than any other.* When I am ready to focus just on speed above all I will certainly ride the A group. just my two cents..* right:
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Re: July 29th at TWS (Texas World Speedway)...

good advice and to those that think you have to be fast and able to hang with the "pros" dont forget its not a race but a track day. i think alot of peple are forgeting that when inputing their .02 cents in this thread :eh:

if it was a race then expect the unexpected and everyones comments would do sound even better right:
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good advice and to those that think you have to be fast and able to hang with the "pros" dont forget its not a race but a track day. i think alot of peple are forgeting that when inputing their .02 cents in this thread* :eh:

if it was a race then expect the unexpected and everyones comments would do sound even better right:
actually, if you're too slow, it's insanely dangerous for the fast guys
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