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Old 06-08-2007, 10:11 AM   #1
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Old 06-08-2007, 10:22 AM   #2
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WOOT! Kawi love!

My understanding is:
Honda: Stong build and good geometry, engine lasts forever
Kawi: Higher tq/hp engine and sharper geometry, engine has some odd noises and cam problems... Tranny problems also but they may have fixed it by going to a Honda style cassette tranny.
Suzuki: Ultimate poser bike, most common reason for getting one "Well it wins championships, or so-and-so has one and says it is the best". Personally I never felt comfortable on any Suzukis long enough to try the performance difference. I hear they are more geared toward top speed than my Kawi, but I like acceleration better personally.
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Old 06-08-2007, 10:23 AM   #3
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Left out Yamaha, I have friends that have em but they never trust me to ride their bikes. I hear nothing but good things though... Even though I like their electronics better than their motors.
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no feathers ruffled here....but i replaced my 04' 636 with my current 600rr. although the 636 did have a little more pep than the 600rr.....the 600rr feels more consistent and stable compared to the 636. not as powerful, that's for sure.....but it feels better for me. i think it's all a preference kinda thing....but the 636 did have that little bit more power i wish the 600rr had.
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to each his own. i'm a honda guy, yamaha comes in close second, but anti-kawa and anti-suzi. its a matter of preference and how comfortable you are riding the bike.
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Yeah, to be honest I love HONDA. I am anti-suzuki though... Blah! Those bikes are not built as well as Honda and Kawi I think... I mean how many stories have you heard of their frame splitting??? I did have an older model GSXR and had nothing but problems with it, I never looked back.

But your right, to each their own.
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i love everything with 2 wheels....from everything between a vespa and a ducati 1098. every bike has their issues or what not....i love em all.
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Okay, dont mean to ruffle any feathers around here, but I rode my friends 06 600RR last night and it was a dud. Nice looking bike, but it didnt seem to have the pep that my previous Ninjas had. I cant compare it to my R6 I just sold because it was built, but was very dissappointed. Now I know why Im a Kawi guy. Just my opinion of course.
In my (limited) experience different bikes have different power ranges and a must be ridden differently. Riding it around the block or for even one night isn't gonna get you familiar enough with the bike to compare it to others IMHO.
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Hard to really get an honest impression from one ride. What was the state of tune of the bike / how was it maintained?

We raced the 636 last year, and we're on a 600rr this year.

The 636 had a touch more power but the 600rr is way more stable mid corner.

In a heads up drag race with a ZX6R though (not 636), the 600RR was a touch quicker.

The Honda transmission is head and shoulders above the Kawi.

The 636 has a little better brakes.

In the end, all of todays 600's are phenomenal bikes, pick the one that you like best.
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i love everything with 2 wheels....from everything between a vespa and a ducati 1098. every bike has their issues or what not....i love em all.
It's a good thing since you're in the business your in. I'd hate to take Mogee to a die-hard Kawi fan for any kind of work. . .it'd kinda be like having to take a beloved terrier or German Sheperd to a veterinarian who only cares about poodles. Gotta wonder what kinda care your pet will recieve. :laughing6
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It's a good thing since you're in the business your in. I'd hate to take Mogee to a die-hard Kawi fan for any kind of work. . .it'd kinda be like having to take a beloved terrier or German Sheperd to a veterinarian who only cares about poodles. Gotta wonder what kinda care your pet will recieve. :laughing6
I believe that in "the biz" they have to look at the work needing to be done rather than let personal preference cloud work quality. I think Patrick and Tony are those kind of guys. Both of them have done me well with my 636. Work should always be separate from personal opinions.
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Yeah, to be honest I love HONDA. I am anti-suzuki though... Blah! Those bikes are not built as well as Honda and Kawi I think...
I dont know about that one. I remember going on a ride with two 06 6r owners. We got to our destination, one couldnt start his bike up (battery Im guessing) and the other lost the screw for its rear brake reservoir. Same bikes even the same color. I just thought it was funny. :icon_bigg
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I dont know about that one. I remember going on a ride with two 06 6r owners. We got to our destination, one couldnt start his bike up (battery Im guessing) and the other lost the screw for its rear brake reservoir. Same bikes even the same color. I just thought it was funny. :icon_bigg
that sounds like a lack of maintenance
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I dont know about that one. I remember going on a ride with two 06 6r owners. We got to our destination, one couldnt start his bike up (battery Im guessing) and the other lost the screw for its rear brake reservoir. Same bikes even the same color. I just thought it was funny. :icon_bigg
Those are not related to manufacturing, they are related to someone being lazy and cheap... Lazy for not tightening the bolts (all bikes have bolts that become loose due to harmonic frequency when riding). Cheap for the guy not buying a trickle charger... I am positive that Kawi frames have been welded better than zuki frames for atleast the last 4 years... Have you ever heard of a kawi frame splitting at the WELD??? Welds are supposed to be the strongest part of the frame.
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I believe that in "the biz" they have to look at the work needing to be done rather than let personal preference cloud work quality. I think Patrick and Tony are those kind of guys. Both of them have done me well with my 636. Work should always be separate from personal opinions.
I agree Dub, in an ideal world, those in business seperate professional from personal. I haven't had a need to seek Tony's services, but I have been to Patrick before; he seems like a standup guy and consumate professional. I left more than happy with the service I received. The post wasn't intended to cast any doubts about either man's integrity; I even wondered if a die-hard Motorcycles Unlimited fan would see that my post was below Patrick's and get ruffled. :icon_bigg Wasn't intended for that. I just wanted to joke with Tony and make another silly simile.
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I agree Dub, in an ideal world, those in business seperate professional from personal. I haven't had a need to seek Tony's services, but I have been to Patrick before; he seems like a standup guy and consumate professional. I left more than happy with the service I received. The post wasn't intended to cast any doubts about either man's integrity; I even wondered if a die-hard Motorcycles Unlimited fan would see that my post was below Patrick's and get ruffled. :icon_bigg Wasn't intended for that. I just wanted to joke with Tony and make another silly simile.
:laughing6 :laughing6 :laughing6 You mean this world isn't perfect?!? ! Didn't read that in the brochure! I was more or less defending honest professionals, not just those guys. I would hope that motorcycle mechanics all over the place have respect for everyone on any type of bike... I mean we are all part of the two wheel club, right!?! I guess your right though, I would never bring my Kawasaki to my girlfriend's dad's Harley shop. I don't mind the Harley guys (other than them never wearing gear or drinking and riding), but they despise sport bike riders.
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that sounds like a lack of maintenance

Actually it wasn't. At all. Both bikes were right at 4k miles, and still under full manufacturers warranty. I know this for fact because my bike was the one with a bad voltage regulator(Not a bad battery as Orlando stated)
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Those are not related to manufacturing, they are related to someone being lazy and cheap... Lazy for not tightening the bolts (all bikes have bolts that become loose due to harmonic frequency when riding). Cheap for the guy not buying a trickle charger... I am positive that Kawi frames have been welded better than zuki frames for atleast the last 4 years... Have you ever heard of a kawi frame splitting at the WELD??? Welds are supposed to be the strongest part of the frame.

Now I'm cheap? I ride my bike almost every single day, rain or shine. I have NO need for a trickle charger champ.
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