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Old 02-23-2015, 01:37 AM   #1
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Holy fishtail. Learning how to brake

So i went from sport bikes to my first cruiser and rode 200 miles on my highball this saturday. Holy fishtail! I almost crashed twice by using front and rear brakes at the same time. Switched to using the front brake only, went through a few red lights and stop signs because i couldnt stop in time. Decided to go back to slowing down with gears and it worked great. after 150 miles everything was smooth with the gear shifting but i am still nervous on what to do if i need to stop quickly. This fear caused me to ride about 3 carlengths behind everyone.
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Old 02-23-2015, 02:04 AM   #2
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but what kind of tire pressures are you running?
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Old 02-23-2015, 07:15 AM   #3
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It's a transition going from a sportbike to a large cruiser.
On the cruiser you will have to use both brakes.
If you're locking up the rear I'd recommend learning how to modulate the pressure a little better. Try practicing your emergency stopping in a empty parking lot.
You may also want to adjust the rear brake pedal height if it's uncomfortable.
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Old 02-23-2015, 08:54 AM   #4
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You may also want to consider replacing your tires also
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Old 02-23-2015, 11:26 AM   #5
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I would never be closer than 3 car lengths behind someone anyway, but sounds like you just need more practice panic braking. +1 to the empty parking lot.
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Old 02-23-2015, 11:39 AM   #6
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I picked up a Victory Hammer Saturday after selling my ZX-10 a few weeks ago. The transition will take some time for sure, rode about 100 miles yesterday, and the biggest surprise was how close the pegs are to the ground. The breaks are pretty stout, light engine breaking along with gently applying both breaks and you slow pretty darn fast.

I'm not above spending sometime in a parking lot relearning some stuff.
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Old 02-23-2015, 12:02 PM   #7
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You will get used to it. I think it shocks everyone coming off a sporty bike. You use much more rear brake on a cruiser than you do on a sport bike. Downshifting and engine braking helps too. You can get them slowed down pretty quick once you get used to it but it's never going to stop like a sport bike.
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Old 02-23-2015, 12:17 PM   #8
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You must be doing something really wrong. Generally speaking cruisers are usually much more tame and easier to handle than a sportbike. I'm curious how did you almost crash. front or rear lockup?

My biggest problem going from cruiser to sbk was the difference in turning. You have to force the sportbike to turn. Where as the cruiser will practically fall into the corner. So after a few hundred miles on my new sbk I got back on the old cruiser and almost laid it over at the first turn I took leaving my neighborhood.
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Old 02-23-2015, 01:12 PM   #9
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I guess I am lucky because i didn't have these issues when I transitioned. Under normal driving I only use my front brake and turn-ins are not an issue.

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Old 02-23-2015, 01:44 PM   #10
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Easy to lock the rear on a cruiser since the brake pedal is in a much more convenient position to stomp the out of it. No way you should be blowing lights and stops signs on front brake only if you're going posted speeds, though. You went from a dual 4-piston setup on the Z1k to a single 4-piston and gained 200 pounds. You'll have to squeeze the front much harder than you're used to, but it'll stop.
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I usually just use the front brakes on my stratoliner. The only time I use the rear brakes on it is during slow turn maneuvers.
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Old 02-23-2015, 08:56 PM   #12
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The Hammer has some pretty decent brakes. It shouldn't take long to get used to the added weight and new riding position.

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Grandmasboy - We need to get a Victory ride together. A High-Ball and Hammer are enough to turn heads, I wonder if there are more V's that would be interested.
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Old 02-24-2015, 12:36 AM   #15
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Everyome has grrat input! I would love to respond to all of you but ill just say a few things relating to the posts. First off im typing on my phone atm so its not gonna be everything I would normally say.

1. Yes I do need to practice more and more, I will try the parkimg lot, as I have no qualms with that. If rather be in a lot all day and save my life than think im to good gpr it and crash.

2. When I did ride it was saturday when the rain was awful. I was soaked all day and delt with pelting sting rain... and it was worth it!! This may have contributed to the lack of stopping power with the brakes.

3. yeah!! These victorys will turn heads!! Lets get together and ride! Im down for any ride also but im loving this victory! Already bought basani pro turn outs from moto unlimited and I should have them intalled before the weeks end. How about a weekend ride?

4. You guys are awesome! Keep up the helpful comments! Always appreciated! Thanks yall!!

5. Murica!!!
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Old 02-24-2015, 12:38 AM   #16
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Oh I.forgot to mention tire pressure, well idk what im sitting at but the same day I had a 23 point inspection and all.was well so.im assuming they are normal
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Old 02-24-2015, 12:43 AM   #17
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Also, I was rear wheel locking. Maybe its all due to the slick watery roads of the day I rode on.
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Old 02-24-2015, 12:47 AM   #18
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You must be doing something really wrong. Generally speaking cruisers are usually much more tame and easier to handle than a sportbike. I'm curious how did you almost crash. front or rear lockup?

My biggest problem going from cruiser to sbk was the difference in turning. You have to force the sportbike to turn. Where as the cruiser will practically fall into the corner. So after a few hundred miles on my new sbk I got back on the old cruiser and almost laid it over at the first turn I took leaving my neighborhood.
I was really good at using my body on my zed. I rode in cali so I learned how to lean and it became second nature. My was either to the left or right of the bike half the time. With this cruiser I feel as if I shouldnt adjust my body at all but rather adjust the bike. Am I wrong? Teach me the ways oh masters of houston riders!!

Ps. Holy fucksticks can people not drive here!!! I amost forgot that blinkers existed on cars after a day of riding!!
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Old 02-24-2015, 02:53 AM   #19
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I was really good at using my body on my zed. I rode in cali so I learned how to lean and it became second nature. My was either to the left or right of the bike half the time. With this cruiser I feel as if I shouldnt adjust my body at all but rather adjust the bike. Am I wrong? Teach me the ways oh masters of houston riders!!

Ps. Holy fucksticks can people not drive here!!! I amost forgot that blinkers existed on cars after a day of riding!!
You're wrong. Adjust your body, not the bike. If you really want to dig in, throw a cheek off the seat and go. Biggest difference will be head position. You're not really aiming for the mirror like you are on a non-cruiser. Aim for halfway between your and the handlebar. Aim your shoulders into the turn (just point your chest in the direction you SHOULD be looking) and you can ride the out of a cruiser.
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Old 02-24-2015, 02:55 AM   #20
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For a bit of reference, double posted in turns is more than attainable on a cruiser.
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