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Old 06-07-2007, 02:34 PM   #101
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the 04-05 zx-10's are more prone to headshake than other literbikes simply because THEY DO NOT COME STOCK WITH A STEERING DAMPER. all the other literbikes do, so naturally, they headshake less. the 10r also has the most agreesive rake and trail numbers, adding to it's "instability" however, in the hands of an experienced rider, headshake really isn't that common. it will feel like it wants to headshake quite a bit, but rarely goes into a full blown tankslapper. of course, fitted with any aftermarket damper that wiggle goes away. the 10r is also very very very sensitive to suspension adjustments, and if they're not correct, or if the wrong profile front tire is on the bike, it will add to the bikes "nervousness." i have an 05 and have taken it to 186 and it's one of the most stable bikes i've ridden, course, it has an ohlins SD that was set full hard for that run.
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Old 06-07-2007, 02:36 PM   #102
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Werd. And i personally love the red. There are so many concept photos out there that never happen. I just dont see that durastic of a change coming for 08.

that "concept" drawing has nothing to do with kawasaki, it's just some magazine editors photoshop pet project. notice the stock front end/brakes/wheel, and an MV agusta rear swingarm/wheel.

things we can expect for sure for the 08:

more torque
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and a redesigned subframe
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Old 06-07-2007, 02:39 PM   #103
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We were in the group but we were way in the back. We came over an overpass and saw all the bikes stopped and the ZX10 on the feeder. The guy was very lucky to walk away.

HPD cop stopped and warned us all about our type of bikes. He told us he investigated the guy who hit the 18 wheeler on 290, Eric Roman's accident and the dude who went off of the allen parkway on ramp. Went into detail about each which I thought was unnecessary.
At first, I thought it was someone that wasn't even with us. Just a guy riding along the feeder and we happen to be there when he wrecked. Then I remembered that the guys in the front took off as soon as we got onto 59.

That Cop was a duesh bag IMO. he was tryin to preach to us about how he "doesn't understand our culture", yet he said "they are very pretty bikes". I didn't like how he went into detail about every wreck either , coulda done without that.
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Old 06-07-2007, 02:43 PM   #104
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you wonder if that cop thinks some people are douche bags for riding like clueless morons at high speeds?
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you wonder if that cop thinks some people are douche bags for riding like clueless morons at high speeds?

Oh he does, his comments to me at Roman's accident made that completely evident!!! AND UNCALLED FOR AT THE SCENE!!!
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At first, I thought it was someone that wasn't even with us. Just a guy riding along the feeder and we happen to be there when he wrecked. Then I remembered that the guys in the front took off as soon as we got onto 59.

That Cop was a duesh bag IMO. he was tryin to preach to us about how he "doesn't understand our culture", yet he said "they are very pretty bikes". I didn't like how he went into detail about every wreck either , coulda done without that.

i'm sure he coulda done without having to pick up the wreckage of yet ANOTHER sportbike that night as well...


how much does it take for ya'll to take a step back and look at yourselves???
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Old 06-07-2007, 02:48 PM   #107
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and to top it off, I picked up a nail when I stopped. :mad:
I swear, we rode around, what seemed like forever, lookin for yall. :laughing6 :laughing6 . Didn't you have two holes in the tire right next to one another ??




oh yeah, don't forget about the sprained ankle at the gas station...is she allright by the way ???
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i'm sure he coulda done without having to pick up the wreckage of yet ANOTHER sportbike that night as well...


how much does it take for ya'll to take a step back and look at yourselves???
He did joke about "us" giving him job security so I guess he didn't mind it too much.

Not everyone was doing triple digits.
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I swear, we rode around, what seemed like forever, lookin for yall. :laughing6 :laughing6 . Didn't you have two holes in the tire right next to one another ??




oh yeah, don't forget about the sprained ankle at the gas station...is she allright by the way ???
Yes, that was me. :BangHead:

Man her ankle is still really swollen. She didn't see the curb when she got off the bike and twisted it really bad. She's in bed, leg elavated with some ise packs on it.

She cried the whole way home. Just wasn't out night.
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He went into the tank slap after we went over 2 small dips in the freeway that lifted the fron wheel up a little. He rode the tank slap about 2/10 of a mile before he finally lost it and the bike pulled hard right across the highway. I watched it happen and I thought We were going to walk over to a dead man. I am glad he is ok.
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i'm sure he coulda done without having to pick up the wreckage of yet ANOTHER sportbike that night as well...
how much does it take for ya'll to take a step back and look at yourselves???
Sure, anybody can do without that BUT.... that's his job, he is a cop and he made that choice by himself, therefore he's gona have to deal with chit like this all the time. IT'S ALL PART OF HIS JOB !!.

By the way the cop didn't have to pick up nothing, that's what the wreckers were there for.
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"... about how he "doesn't understand our culture..."
Seems to be a common problem with some of them.
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I have to admit I also do not understand the culture of "lets buy a high performance vehicle and ride it stupid, destroy it and hurt or kill myself when doing it".
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I have to admit I also do not understand the culture of "lets buy a high performance vehicle and ride it stupid, destroy it and hurt or kill myself when doing it".
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that's what everyone's thinking when they buy a sportbike. Believe it or not there are some responsible riders out there on the streets that obey the laws and do the speed limit.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that's what everyone's thinking when they buy a sportbike. Believe it or not there are some responsible riders out there on the streets that obey the laws and do the speed limit.
Yes there are some, and we know there are a lot that don't. The forums
are littered with examples of the mentality/action he refers to.

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"Oh he does, his comments to me at Roman's accident made that completely evident!!! AND UNCALLED FOR AT THE SCENE!!!
To be blunt, it was probably the best time for him to try to make his point.
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I still think that some of us can ride and many cant- at a safe speed on a highway...Public highway at that..

Glad the guy didnt die....But come on dude....wise up, kids
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Riding home from work today on 610 by the ship Channel and caught myself twisting it up to 85 cause the traffic was moving fast .....
Slowed down and fell in to cruising mode...HPD was behind me as I exited.

The cop waved at me....WTF???
Ride smart out there folks... No need to ride fster than the century mark on a public road...
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OMG! When will some people learn that the streets are not your personal track! How many more people have to die or get hurt before you wake up! :BangHead:
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the 04-05 zx-10's are more prone to headshake than other literbikes simply because THEY DO NOT COME STOCK WITH A STEERING DAMPER. all the other literbikes do, so naturally, they headshake less. the 10r also has the most agreesive rake and trail numbers, adding to it's "instability" however, in the hands of an experienced rider, headshake really isn't that common. it will feel like it wants to headshake quite a bit, but rarely goes into a full blown tankslapper. of course, fitted with any aftermarket damper that wiggle goes away. the 10r is also very very very sensitive to suspension adjustments, and if they're not correct, or if the wrong profile front tire is on the bike, it will add to the bikes "nervousness." i have an 05 and have taken it to 186 and it's one of the most stable bikes i've ridden, course, it has an ohlins SD that was set full hard for that run.
Thank you for clearing that up. People with the 04/05's seem to think its the 06/07's with the problem but yet, they are the ones equipped with the damper. An aftermarket damper such as a GPR would help both bikes though no doubt. The stock ohlins is kinda weak to be on a bike with that much power. I obviously like the feel of a stiffer damper myself.
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