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Old 02-13-2015, 11:29 AM   #61
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So you have it mastered then? I'd love to get some pointers from you and tmax as I'm sure y'all are much faster than me since I'm a "noob"

TMAX- you're riding one thing (scooter) talking about big boy toys like motorcycles, and have the track experience of my 5 year old son. Please just stfu with calling anyone "noobs".
Haha the ol' "I ride track, I'm a great rider" routine. Funny.
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Seen a busa at last years 2k event that has no rear caliper and pushing the rear brake makes it spray nitrous lol.
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Haha the ol' "I ride track, I'm a great rider" routine. Funny.
The whole "I've ridden on 3 continents and 100,000 miles, I'm a great rider" routine.
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All I know is that in my Motorcycle Safety Instruction Classes we were taught to use both hands and both feet at the same time in order to stop. The instructor wanted to see us downshift from second, let off the throttle, and use both brakes at the same time, all simultaneously. You were scored based on how far it took you to stop. I'm sure this is the same drill that everyone that has taken this class has had to do. I think the key is to do all these things in a smooth-like manner. Using both brakes at the same time will make you stop a lot better; but only when done in a smooth-like manner.
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"So you have it mastered then? I'd love to get some pointers from you and tmax as I'm sure y'all are much faster than me since I'm a "noob"

I never claimed mastery, and it's jack shyte about 'faster than'... but you should have noticed a few of us have tad more experience than you do....and I gave you a pointer,
Shutup and practice.

there's the first problem focus/fascination with 'faster', it's that whole 'fast' part which eats of so many newbs and scrubs.


"Motorcycle Safety Instruction Classes we were taught to use both hands and both feet at the same time in order to stop"
Pretty much what they taught back in the 80's.
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The whole "I've ridden on 3 continents and 100,000 miles, I'm a great rider" routine.
Actually over 130000, but impressive resume nonetheless.

miles noob, not track days.
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Actually over 130000, but impressive resume nonetheless.

miles noob, not track days.
Miles does not equal skill or knowledge. Just like # of track days does not equal skill. Just like I've been riding for over 20 years but that doesn't make me the end all be all of riding.
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I'm curious to know, who rides in the rain and doesn't use the rear brake?

It serves a purpose and it's a necessary habit to get into if you're an all weather/season rider ( which I am ).

Ride without using the rear break, long enough, and you will regret it. Hopefully, you'll LIVE to regret it.

But it's your life, do what you want. 'merica!
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Miles does not equal skill or knowledge. Just like # of track days does not equal skill. Just like I've been riding for over 20 years but that doesn't make me the end all be all of riding.
Miles equals experience in real road situations rear brake an all.

TRACK? ROUND AND ROUND AS FAST AS I CAN?
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I'm curious to know, who rides in the rain and doesn't use the rear brake?

It serves a purpose and it's a necessary habit to get into if you're an all weather/season rider ( which I am ).

Ride without using the rear break, long enough, and you will regret it. Hopefully, you'll LIVE to regret it.

But it's your life, do what you want. 'merica!
I ride as long as there's no danger of ice on the road, and I rarely use my rear brake. When I do use it, it's just because I'm around.
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"Miles does not equal skill or knowledge. Just like # of track days does not equal skill. Just like I've been riding for over 20 years but that doesn't make me the end all be all of riding."

No, but they do reflect experiences... this gets to the old/bold rider paradigm.
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I'm curious to know, who rides in the rain and doesn't use the rear brake?

It serves a purpose and it's a necessary habit to get into if you're an all weather/season rider ( which I am ).

Ride without using the rear break, long enough, and you will regret it. Hopefully, you'll LIVE to regret it.

But it's your life, do what you want. 'merica!
Ive raced in the rain. And didnt use rear break. You just have to complete all of your braking straight up and down. There is no trail braking in the rain.
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TRACK? ROUND AND ROUND AS FAST AS I CAN?
Are you really this dumb or is this an act?


How do you know which technique is faster unless you have something to compare it to? Lap times give you that.

How does that work on a street ride? Man I used the rear brake and didn't highside, I'm obviously faster now.
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How do you know which technique is faster unless you have something to compare it to? Lap times give you that.

How does that work on a street ride? Man I used the rear brake and didn't highside, I'm obviously faster now.
There you go, talking all tracker.

Follow your idols then, they do, and make money doinv so. Oh but you must be a Keith Code guy. Haha

Then consider using your rear brake tracker.
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There you go, talking all tracker.

Follow your idols then, they do, and make money doinv so. Oh but you must be a Keith Code guy. Haha

Then consider using your rear brake tracker.
You obviously can't answer the question because you have no logical answer.

Unless your street rides consist of riding on a loop in a remote location with a lap timer, how do you really know that one technique is faster than the other?
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You obviously can't answer the question because you have no logical answer.

Unless your street rides consist of riding on a loop in a remote location with a lap timer, how do you really know that one technique is faster than the other?
You keep talking tracker.
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