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Old 02-09-2015, 10:50 AM   #41
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track noob here. So what happened in this clip exactly? You came into the corner too hot and then speed wobble kicked in when you grabbed the front brake? What can you do in this situation going into a turn at this point? I've read you're supposed to add throttle to get rid of the wobble but what the do you do going into a turn? I understand that this could've ended much worse....
I didnt judge the rider by the walls speed correctly. Like I said this is entirely my fault and is always the passer's responsiblilty to make the pass safely. I saw that he was coming into my line and grabed all front in order to avoid packing him. I probably would have ran the line wide reguardless coming in at that speed. Im comfortable with the rear sliding around but in this situation what me up was the rear came up and to inside. After that I realeased pressure from the front brakes tried to stop before the gravel, hit the gravel and locked up the rear brake. Made it about 90% through before I laid the bike down.
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track noob here. So what happened in this clip exactly? You came into the corner too hot and then speed wobble kicked in when you grabbed the front brake? What can you do in this situation going into a turn at this point? I've read you're supposed to add throttle to get rid of the wobble but what the do you do going into a turn? I understand that this could've ended much worse....

That's not a speed wobble (aka headshake) that was the front end on the verge of lock, but without enough lean angle to just go straight down.
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I didnt judge the rider by the walls speed correctly. Like I said this is entirely my fault and is always the passer's responsiblilty to make the pass safely. I saw that he was coming into my line and grabed all front in order to avoid packing him. I probably would have ran the line wide reguardless coming in at that speed. Im comfortable with the rear sliding around but in this situation what me up was the rear came up and to inside. After that I realeased pressure from the front brakes tried to stop before the gravel, hit the gravel and locked up the rear brake. Made it about 90% through before I laid the bike down.
Decisions that are literally made in mili-seconds. My fast-twitch reflexes are far too slow and I lack the ball-size to ever attempt this crazy ! Glad you were not seriously hurt Paul.
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Old 02-09-2015, 11:22 AM   #44
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interesting story bro. you should tell me more at msrh
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Decisions that are literally made in mili-seconds. My fast-twitch reflexes are far too slow and I lack the ball-size to ever attempt this crazy ! Glad you were not seriously hurt Paul.
Thanks boss. Its all part of it.
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Nice edit. quier
I decided to be nice since you found my facebook msg offensive. if you actually end up coming to twin peaks this wed. ill buy you a beer
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I decided to be nice since you found my facebook msg offensive. if you actually end up coming to twin peaks this wed. ill buy you a beer
I didnt find anything offesive. I just dont like you..

As for the beer, Im good. I wouldnt want to get roofied. I dont roll that way dude.
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I didnt find anything offesive. I just dont like you..

As for the beer, Im good. I wouldnt want to get roofied. I dont roll that way dude.
Dont flatter yourself, too ugly to waste a roofie on.
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Why can't track guys just all get along?



Nice save. , nice pace!
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Nice save. , nice pace!

I just dont like Umayr, he knows everything. Everyone else I do Kinda..
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Nice save. , nice pace!
Cause its that time of month.
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Superman that hoe!

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Just an observation, but it looks like you may have been carrying all your braking weight in your arms on the bars, instead of on the tank with your knees, which may have cause you to get all jiggy with it.
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Id be needing a new suit after a moment like that , I prob would of flipped over and knocked my fronts out

Glad your ok Paul and I'll more than likely be at the races next weekend cheering you on
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Too bad I didnt have the skills to negotiate it like this guy... lol
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I acutally do use rear brake often in that corner. At this point, I was not and would have been usesless.
Sooooo... there you have it. Straight from the scooter guy.
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after Racerxxx reply, jokes on you tracker.
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Id be needing a new suit after a moment like that , I prob would of flipped over and knocked my fronts out

Glad your ok Paul and I'll more than likely be at the races next weekend cheering you on
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So you're just assuming that he wasn't, and gave advice based on an assumption?
There you have it.
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Sooooo... there you have it. Straight from the scooter guy.
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after Racerxxx reply, jokes on you tracker.

Two things of note:

1. you do realize we're in a thread where the OP posts a video of the person you're calling "the scooter guy" crashes...right? You don't see that as possibly undermining the authority you're incorrectly attributing to him?

2. Secondly, your smug replies come, literally, the post below a video of marquez...arguable the best rider ever...hanging is foot WAAYYYYY of the peg going into a turn. One could make a strong case that this would make it impossible for him to be using the rear brake (I've seen talk of a thumb brake, but I don't know if anyone has confirmed whether he uses one). Not to mention that the rear tire is in the air.


So no, even when you appeal to someone else's authority, you still come out the clown.
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