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Old 01-10-2015, 10:00 AM   #21
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the only thing i dont like about them is the cooling fan. They will fail eventually. LED will overheat if that happens and will fail with it unless they have a way to detect that abd shut it off.
This is my only concern as well. I've asked the manufacturer about his and am awaiting a response. They look weatherproof, but I'd like to get confirmation on that before I purchase them.
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Let me start by stating that I upgraded to HID's on the '08 about a month ago and have been dealing with the power/current draw with flickers and the bulbs not turning on at times when I start the bike. Thanks to some help from you guys, I went ahead and purchased a relay harness kit (received it last week). It's been cold as lately for Houston, Texas standards and I haven't really had the urge to go out and install the harness. Upon opening the harness I noticed that this thing is a huge bundle of wires. I mean HUGE! Look at this thing:

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So after some deliberation I have decided to start looking into some LED bulbs to replace the pesky HID's and prevent me from having to find a way to mount this enormously bulky harness on my bike. Between the ballasts and this harness, it just seems stupid.
One of many reasons why I don't care for HID add ons for motorcycles.
They're typically low quality, problematic and not reliable.
Not to mention the wiring and mounting nightmares I've seen some people do to their bikes when intalling them.


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HID's are fine if used with a projector lens like they're designed for.

Correct, without the ability to focus the light, not only are you blinding others, both as you come up behind them and in passing, you aren't focusing the light where you need it; in front of you to see where you're going.


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LED is narrow spectrum. It is super bright only if you are looking directly at the diode, but it doesnt luminate objects well as HID. Unlike HID, those LED seems to pointed upward when mounted so it all depend on how your housing is designed. Worst case is you will get less visibilty. I highly doubt this will blind anyone. If anything it will have less glare than hologen. Try it and see...

True. I've got huge PIAA LED driving lights on the truck, we mainly use them at night to work cattle or hunt. They put a lot of useable light out fairly close to the truck but not a lot down stream.
During the daytime as a means to draw attention to yourself though they're pretty useless. At ceratin angles in the daylight you can't even tell they're on.


My 2 cents is to buy a good quality bulb in the STOCK wattage so you don't melt wires/plugs or fry your charging system.
They're brighter than stock without being blinding, they actually focus more useable light down the road where you need it, and they're reliable and don't cause electrical issues.
PIAA or Silverstar are good choices, with PIAA getting my vote.
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Old 01-10-2015, 03:10 PM   #25
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One of many reasons why I don't care for HID add ons for motorcycles.
My 2 cents is to buy a good quality bulb in the STOCK wattage so you don't melt wires/plugs or fry your charging system.
They're brighter than stock without being blinding, they actually focus more useable light down the road where you need it, and they're reliable and don't cause electrical issues.
PIAA or Silverstar are good choices, with PIAA getting my vote.
The ballasts were kind of a PIA to locate a good place to mount. Then, after unboxing the relay harness this week is when I really started to think "to with this". I've been doing quite a bit of research the past week or so on these LED bulbs and what I'm starting to see is hat the bulbs with the heat fans on them are typically the better quality bulbs (hence the higher price point). I had looked into silverstars (ran these in my truck) as well as PIAA, and for the price I'm leaning towards these LED bulbs. I really appreciate your input Patrick. We'll see which route I choose to go once these manufacturers and sellers return all of my questions. I've pretty much bombarded them the past few days, lol.
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Philips Moto vision are great stock replacement bulbs as well. If you want good lights fork out the money and get real HID Retrofits or LED retrofits. I have not seen a good aftermarket LED that are tuned properly to work in stock reflector housings.
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Here's a novel idea. How about you put stock lamps back in and quit blinding the out of everyone.
I do it intentionally
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One of many reasons why I don't care for HID add ons for motorcycles.
They're typically low quality, problematic and not reliable.
Not to mention the wiring and mounting nightmares I've seen some people do to their bikes when intalling them.





Correct, without the ability to focus the light, not only are you blinding others, both as you come up behind them and in passing, you aren't focusing the light where you need it; in front of you to see where you're going.





True. I've got huge PIAA LED driving lights on the truck, we mainly use them at night to work cattle or hunt. They put a lot of useable light out fairly close to the truck but not a lot down stream.
During the daytime as a means to draw attention to yourself though they're pretty useless. At ceratin angles in the daylight you can't even tell they're on.


My 2 cents is to buy a good quality bulb in the STOCK wattage so you don't melt wires/plugs or fry your charging system.
They're brighter than stock without being blinding, they actually focus more useable light down the road where you need it, and they're reliable and don't cause electrical issues.
PIAA or Silverstar are good choices, with PIAA getting my vote.
I have 2 years with my hid's. Never a problem..they have been reliable
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We all know your not the smartest guy in the world, so this is par for the coarse. Lol
Lol. Im not the one repeating the same complaint on every thread
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Lol. Im not the one repeating the same complaint on every thread
Didn't you just say you intentionally put hids in your vehicle to blind people? And I'm the ?

My complaint is valid and I honestly think stupid people like you need people like me to let you know..
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Maybe if you calm down you would know sarcasm when you see it.. now quit on the drama and get a glass of water
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You're looking at this wrong. If you blind the out of them they can't see you.This convo isn't about the cagers, it's about common courtesy which seems you young don't have. You think you're more visible but it's far from the truth...
LOL...Thanks for the "young " make me feel good.

Still the cagers! at daylight time with the cagers turning in front you, you need the most visibility you can get.
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LOL...Thanks for the "young " make me feel good.

Still the cagers! at daylight time with the cagers turning in front you, you need the most visibility you can get.
Wrong again brah. Have you ever tried judging distance on an with hids? You can judge distance on an object traveling town the road. Try doing the same on a ball of light coming at you from some that says cagers. How are you going to get any respect on the street with that combo?
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LOL...Thanks for the "young " make me feel good.

Still the cagers! at daylight time with the cagers turning in front you, you need the most visibility you can get.
You should learn to USE VISIBILITY rather than rely on other to use theirs.

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Something else to consider....
There is more of "them" than there is of "us". If "they" get because "we" blind them at night, guess who loses. "Us".
So " you"and your bright assed headlights. They aren't needed and you just everybody off with your ignorance.
No offense, just using your references, lol.
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I will never use them at night. It will be bad and a hazard, but at daytime I think they are necessary, specially if you are riding in streets like FM1960 where you have a lot of left turners,
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There's always exceptions to every circumstance. That said, I see a lot of poorly installed and poorly operating HID systems. Either that or you've had so many beers you don't notice if they're working or not......
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