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Old 06-17-2005, 03:56 PM   #1
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Lowering links

I'm 5'4" and my 05' zx6r 636 is a little bit tall for me. (I already dropped it once)
I was going to buy the lowering links but I read somewhere that they are not intended exactly for lowering a bike for a short rider. They are intended to lower the bike for a different use like drag racing. Am I right?
Can someone please explain to me how they work? I don't want to alter the handling on my bike. I don't want to make it harder to ride.


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Old 06-17-2005, 03:59 PM   #2
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Re: Lowering links

if you do lower it you will lose a little handeling ability. but, it beats the outa dropin it if you cant reach the ground,,,

just tuff it out, man i'm 5'3 and its difficult for me to reach on the R1 and on the 636, the 636 is actually higher than my R1... but i wont lower it for that,, just hang a cheek off when you need to put your foot down,,,

i lowered my sisters bike for her, nothing matters there though, b/c she just cruises around on it,,
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if you do lower it you will lose a little handeling ability. but, it beats the outa dropin it if you cant reach the ground,,,

just tuff it out, man i'm 5'3 and its difficult for me to reach on the R1 and on the 636, the 636 is actually higher than my R1... but i wont lower it for that,, just hang a cheek off when you need to put your foot down,,,

i lowered my sisters bike for her, nothing matters there though, b/c she just cruises around on it,,
I've been told from a few friends that have their bikes lowered that the handling wasn't major but the only thing they didn't like was dragging their peg through turns. They mainly just cruise anyhow so I guess you really wouldn't feel it much anyhow.
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Old 06-17-2005, 06:36 PM   #4
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Re: Lowering links

So, maybe it would be a good idea to lower it for a while and get used to the bike (It's my first bike) then I can reset it to its original height.....



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So, maybe it would be a good idea to lower it for a while and get used to the bike (It's my first bike) then I can reset it to its original height.....




Have to be careful not to bust up your bottom fairings though riding that low.
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So, maybe it would be a good idea to lower it for a while and get used to the bike (It's my first bike) then I can reset it to its original height.....




Have to be careful not to bust up your bottom fairings though riding that low.
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Re: Lowering links

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I'm 5'4" and my 05' zx6r 636 is a little bit tall for me. (I already dropped it once)
I was going to buy the lowering links but I read somewhere that they are not intended exactly for lowering a bike for a short rider. They are intended to lower the bike for a different use like drag racing. Am I right?
Can someone please explain to me how they work? I don't want to alter the handling on my bike. I don't want to make it harder to ride.


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Old 06-19-2005, 07:16 PM   #8
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Re: Lowering links

Yes I have, thanks.
As a matter of fact I read one of your posts there suggesting motohouston.com and thatís how I found this place* *right:
I was just asking to get more opinions on this subject.
My conclusion so far is that it seems like the best way to go for me is:
Lower my bike for a while just to get comfortable with riding (this is my first bike and I should be focused on the basics of riding safely and not focused on the height of my bike) and then after a couple of hundred miles, returned it to it's original height and learn to deal with the fact that I'm going to tiptoe it all the time.

By the way, I completed my MSF course today, and I learned a lot of basic stuff that will prevent my bike from going down.

When I dropped my bike two weeks ago I was doing all that I learned now NOT to do:
1) Turning too slow.
2) Braking while turning.
3) Not counter weighting.
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When I dropped my bike two weeks ago I was doing all that I learned now NOT to do:
1) Turning too slow.
2) Braking while turning.
3) Not counter weighting.
4) Looking down.
#2 is called trail braking and it is perfectly normal to do IFF you know how to do it properly. I do it on the track and even on the street sometimes.
#3.. u mean counter steering herhaps? :dontknow: Countersteering is something you should always do. You shouldn't turn right and lean left. I would consider that counter weighing and its something you should NOT do. If you turn right, lean right. right:
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Old 06-20-2005, 08:24 AM   #10
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Re: Lowering links

Thanks, I didn't know about tail braking.
I was told in the MSF course that I have to slow before getting into the curve and avoid decelerating or braking in the curve.
In #3 I mean counter weighting (also called counter balancing) as far as I understood is to keep your body straight instead of leaning with the bike when turning very slow, a U trun for example.

For clarification let me explain what happened when I dropped my bike:

After taking my bike from a parking space, I wanted to go left and I positioned the bike in that direction and mounted my bike, then I noticed that it was better to go right, so instead of getting off the bike and put it in the direction I needed, I tried to make a turn to the right (almost U turn) in the parking lot. When I started everything was fine but I was turning too wide and getting close to the cars in the other side so instead of turning the handlebars and counter weighting to turn tighter, I applied the brake and started going down, down , down.


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Thanks, I didn't know about tail braking.
I was told in the MSF course that I have to slow before getting into the curve and avoid decelerating or braking in the curve.
In #3 I mean counter weighting (also called counter balancing) as far as I understood is to keep your body straight instead of leaning with the bike when turning very slow, a U trun for example.

For clarification let me explain what happened when I dropped my bike:

After taking my bike from a parking space, I wanted to go left and I positioned the bike in that direction and mounted my bike, then I noticed that it was better to go right, so instead of getting off the bike and put it in the direction I needed, I tried to make a turn to the right (almost U turn) in the parking lot. When I started everything was fine but I was turning too wide and getting close to the cars in the other side so instead of turning the handlebars and counter weighting to turn tighter, I applied the brake and started going down, down , down.*


sounds to me like you were moving to slow to do that
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Now I know...
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Old 06-20-2005, 09:34 AM   #13
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Now I know...*
then it shouldnt happen again, right?
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Old 06-20-2005, 09:37 AM   #14
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No, it shouldn't.
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You'll be a pro soon. :cool:
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Old 06-20-2005, 10:23 AM   #17
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Re: Lowering links

What about installing a CORBIn seat...??? I think they lower the seat high but I'm not 100% sure.

http://corbin.com/kawasaki/2003zx6r.shtml

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or you can try to shave your seat. theres a how to for a 03 zx6r on zx6r.com.
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that looks good
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No, it shouldn't.
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Yeah you were goin too slow for that.. But its all good man it could happen to anyone by accident. Now you'll be prepared for next time. right:
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