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Old 12-19-2014, 04:19 PM   #1
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Exclamation Yamaha or Kawasaki

Ok so I recently bought a used bike from a dealer and after 2 days it has started leaking... Anyways the dealer is working with me and they are going to put me on a new (used) bike, they feel bad about the mishap. So I was wondering what's a better choice; 2007 Yamaha r1 with 20k or a 2009 Kawasaki zx6r with 18k?… I have always owned 600's and was curious about get a liter bike.
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I'd choose the R1.... just because I've never really been a Kawasaki fan. That's just my opinion.
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Old 12-19-2014, 05:00 PM   #3
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the 09-13 zx-6r's were the best 600 ever made, up to that point. Now the 2013/14 636s are. And that's not subjective. Check the components/dynos/weight stats.

The r1's are nice, but as with any liter bike, it's really too much to enjoy anything below 55-70mph. Save on your insurance and gas and get that Kawi. But make sure both have had the 16-18k mi valve check/adjustment. That can be a huge service
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the 09-13 zx-6r's were the best 600 ever made, up to that point. Now the 2013/14 636s are. And that's not subjective. Check the components/dynos/weight stats.

The r1's are nice, but as with any liter bike, it's really too much to enjoy anything below 55-70mph. Save on your insurance and gas and get that Kawi. But make sure both have had the 16-18k mi valve check/adjustment. That can be a huge service
Thanks for the good advice.
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Old 12-19-2014, 06:00 PM   #5
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What leaked? Also I would go for R1.
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What leaked? Also I would go for R1.
Oil, so I took it in and he said there were more problems once the mechanic looked at it. I'm glad it happened sooner than later.
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Old 12-19-2014, 07:46 PM   #7
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So I went a completly different direction and got a 2008 gsxr 600.

Any pros/cons?
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the 09-13 zx-6r's were the best 600 ever made, up to that point. Now the 2013/14 636s are. And that's not subjective. Check the components/dynos/weight stats.

The r1's are nice, but as with any liter bike, it's really too much to enjoy anything below 55-70mph. Save on your insurance and gas and get that Kawi. But make sure both have had the 16-18k mi valve check/adjustment. That can be a huge service
Weird at the cmra banquet I didn't see any zx6rs up at the front, only r6's. They are great bikes but you can't say hands no competition best 600.
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Honda is the best street bike. And it wont leak.
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Just ask bevo!
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the 09-13 zx-6r's were the best 600 ever made, up to that point. Now the 2013/14 636s are. And that's not subjective. Check the components/dynos/weight stats.

The r1's are nice, but as with any liter bike, it's really too much to enjoy anything below 55-70mph. Save on your insurance and gas and get that Kawi. But make sure both have had the 16-18k mi valve check/adjustment. That can be a huge service
Yah. Not really. The zx6r has horrible chatter at expert pace that few have been able to tune out, they are notorious for electronics problems, and built vs built isn't as good as an R6. I'd say a Honda is better, too.
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Yah. Not really. The zx6r has horrible chatter at expert pace that few have been able to tune out, they are notorious for electronics problems, and built vs built isn't as good as an R6. I'd say a Honda is better, too.
What chatter are you talking about?
What electronics problems do you think they have?
And If the kawi's are so bad then why where there so many 636's racing this year?

I think the r6 is a better track bike, but for the streets the ninja all the way.
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Front end chatter under heavy braking. If you haven't felt it, you're not fast enough.

what electronic problems do i know they have? Stators, rectifiers, fuel pumps, ecus, wiring from the factory... ask Jimmy Newton why he bought several backups for those items listed for his son's race bike.

Name 3 expert ridden zx6r's that won this year, I'll give you two... Eddie Thornton and Jay Newton.

Both of those guys will be on R6's next year, btw.
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Front end chatter under heavy braking. If you haven't felt it, you're not fast enough.

what electronic problems do i know they have? Stators, rectifiers, fuel pumps, ecus, wiring from the factory... ask Jimmy Newton why he bought several backups for those items listed for his son's race bike.

Name 3 expert ridden zx6r's that won this year, I'll give you two... Eddie Thornton and Jay Newton.

Both of those guys will be on R6's next year, btw.
, you came with your guns loaded.
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Front end chatter under heavy braking. If you haven't felt it, you're not fast enough.

what electronic problems do i know they have? Stators, rectifiers, fuel pumps, ecus, wiring from the factory... ask Jimmy Newton why he bought several backups for those items listed for his son's race bike.

Name 3 expert ridden zx6r's that won this year, I'll give you two... Eddie Thornton and Jay Newton.

Both of those guys will be on R6's next year, btw.
I have never really raced my zx6r, so yeah im not that fast on it.

They could have just bought a "lemon", in regards to those problems. Im dont know all of the problems on the 13 model.
Rectifier is the only thing that has gone out at 14k on my bike. For the ecu there probably running aftermarket race or flashed ecu, so that could pose a problem. I think jay, and Eddie both had the 13 636, my 09 zx6r has been reliable and good.

Every bike has its share of problems, just have to hope its something easy to fix.
Anyway i was just curious as to what you have heard.
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So I went a completly different direction and got a 2008 gsxr 600.

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I guess the yamaha/kawasaki discussion is a moot point.

This looks like a 2007. Are you sure it's an 08? My few rides on an 08 Suzuki have all been positive
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I guess the yamaha/kawasaki discussion is a moot point.

This looks like a 2007. Are you sure it's an 08? My few rides on an 08 Suzuki have all been positive
Those are definitely 06/07 plastics.
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This looks like a 2007. Are you sure it's an 08? My few rides on an 08 Suzuki have all been positive
My bad i meant to put 2007
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