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Old 12-14-2014, 03:26 PM   #1
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J Restriction....removal?

I've had my CM license since 2006, but I've always had the J restriction on it since then.

I figured since I just bought another bike I'd see what I need to do to get it removed. Anyone know? TxDPS is closed today so figured I'd post about it.

From what I'm reading I need a MSF Course
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Old 12-14-2014, 03:42 PM   #2
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What's the J restriction mean?

EDIT: Licensed driver age 21 or over in sight

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Old 12-14-2014, 03:48 PM   #3
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Old 12-14-2014, 04:04 PM   #4
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How does one obtain a J restriction?
I have no idea honestly, it's been a long time. I think I went in and got a M permit for my license and they sent me the one with the restriction on it and I never followed up on getting the "real license". Cops would pull me over and never say anything about it so I kinda forgot about it...just bothers me that it's down there and I'm not sure what laws have changed since then if it would even matter.
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Old 12-14-2014, 06:45 PM   #5
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Has anyone Googled it?
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Old 12-14-2014, 07:13 PM   #6
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It's basically a learners permit
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Old 12-14-2014, 07:22 PM   #7
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I've been a learnin a lonnnggg time, haha
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Old 12-15-2014, 07:54 AM   #8
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I would call. They may just remove it if you are not a minor....

From TXDPS

Sometimes a restriction code may be placed on a driver license. This is not meant to interfere with an individual’s driving but to make the individual a better driver. Individuals who wish to have a restriction code removed may contact any driver license office.

For individuals under 18 years of age, the Graduated Driver License (GDL) Program enforces some restrictions on when and how a minor may ride a motorcycle during the first year they have a Class M. Phase two of the GDL Program applies to minors who currently hold a Class M.

Motorcycle Learner License (J restriction)
A motorcycle learner license allows an individual to practice riding a motorcycle if a licensed driver who is 21 years of age or older is “in sight” and watching.

To apply for a motorcycle learner license, an individual must meet all of the requirements necessary to obtain a learner license, plus complete a motorcycle safety course. (Please bring the certificate of completion to the driver license office when applying for a license.)

Minors are required to take a motorcycle riding test to remove the “J” restriction.
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I had it on mine for 10 years. It was the original learners permit. I went and did the riding part for the licenses right before they made classes mandatory. Thats how I got it removed
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Old 12-15-2014, 08:48 AM   #10
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J restriction

No class needed. Law states class is required for a "new" motorcycle endorsement. Technically you have one, it's just restricted. You can go to DPS, do a riding test and you're done. Call DPS in Austin if you need more info. 800-292-5787. Don't wait, tho. Technically your insurance coverage may be denied in the event of a claim due to something happening if you're riding at night, or with a passenger, or not accompanied by another licensed motorcyclist. It's that old "illegal and criminal act" clause! Good luck.
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Both my sons got their M at age 15 before they even had a C. They tested on 600s and have no restrictions. Go to DPS and have them give you a new DL without the J.
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Lots of misinformation out there. Here's the current law as defined on the Texas DPS motorcycle safety unit website:
Motorcycle Licenses

A Class M driver license is needed to operate a motorcycle or moped. In addition to meeting the requirements necessary to obtain a regular driver license, individuals who apply for a Class M must also meet other criteria.

NOTE: The Motorcycle Operator’s Manual is available to help prepare individuals to get their motorcycle license.

Motorcycle Safety Course

To obtain a Class M driver license, individuals are required to take a DPS-approved motorcycle safety course. When applying for a Class M, please bring the certificate of completion to the driver license office.

If an individual has a valid motorcycle license from another state, this course requirement will be waived.

Minors
In addition to the motorcycle safety course, individuals under 18 years of age must:

Have a Class C learner license or driver license; and
Complete the classroom phase of a driver education course before a motorcycle safety course can be taken. (The behind-the-wheel part of driver education is not needed to take the motorcycle safety course or apply for a Class M.)
Minors from Out-of-State
In Texas, the driver education requirement applies to all individuals under 18 years of age, even if they already hold a motorcycle license from another state.

Tests

Knowledge Tests
Individuals must take a basic knowledge test and a motorcycle knowledge test. Both tests will be waived for individuals who hold a valid motorcycle license from another state.

Motorcycle Riding Test
Individuals must take the motorcycle riding test unless the individual is:

18 years of age or older, has completed a motorcycle safety course and holds a valid, unrestricted Texas Class A, B or C driver license;
18 years of age or older and is transferring a valid, unrestricted motorcycle license from another state;
Applying for a motorcycle learner license (J restriction—see “Class M Restrictions” section below); or
Only going to ride mopeds (K restriction—see “Class M Restrictions” section below).
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I went down to the dmv in alvin and paid $11, they told me I was grandfathered in because I've had my CM so long, so they scheduled an appointment for my riding test and once I complete that they'll remove the J Restriction.

Thanks for the info guys.
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Doesn't sound grandfathered in so much. I figured it was a driving test issue though
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Doesn't sound grandfathered in so much. I figured it was a driving test issue though
If they wouldn't have honored my current CM, I'd have had to take a MSF and present the certificate....so I avoided that - hence being grandfathered in.

All I have to do is show up and they ride in my "car" and follow me around to determine whether I can ride or not, lol.
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Got it. That ride along was a pain. Finding someone on their schedule sucked. My buddies wife wasn't working and went with me
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