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Old 12-12-2014, 11:55 PM   #1
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Hello MH,
Not sure if this is the right section, if it's not please let me know.
I have a 2006 Ninja 650 that I have been riding for about 4 months now. Now I do love the Bike, and is a great beginner bike for me, but I rode a ninja 250 couple of days ago, and enjoyed it very much! I feel like I can be more confident cornering in a 250 than a 650 since it's a way lighter bike! I personally would love to get a Ninja 300, but right now I have this offer, just wanted to know if it's a fair deal on my end.

My 2006 Ninja 650 with 3k miles, two brothers racing exhaust, power commander 3, LED underlay lights, tinted zero Gravity shield, all of which were installed by the nice guys at Motorcycles Unlimited.

Trade for a 2012 Ninja 250 with 2k miles, with just a aftermarket exhaust(not sure the brand) and $350 cash.

I know I'll miss the power of the 650, but I kind of want to improve my riding skills on a smaller bike. Would this be a fair trade, or should I just sell the bike and try to get a ninja 300(which I really want)?

Thanks in advance!
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Old 12-13-2014, 12:09 AM   #2
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My .02 cents would be just to keep what you have and learn on it.
Take your bike to the track next season and you will be able to improve in a "controlled" environment.

The 650 not that much heavier
If you ever get on the highway, the extra power really helps.
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Old 12-13-2014, 12:12 AM   #3
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My .02 cents would be just to keep what you have and learn on it.
Take your bike to the track next season and you will be able to improve in a "controlled" environment.

The 650 not that much heavier
If you ever get on the highway, the extra power really helps.
I do ride on the freeway, and do love the passing power! that's one of the reasons I'm thinking about keeping it. But thanks for your opinion, much appreciated!
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Old 12-13-2014, 01:06 AM   #4
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That is a horrible trade.
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Old 12-13-2014, 01:10 AM   #5
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Hello MH,
Not sure if this is the right section, if it's not please let me know.
I have a 2006 Ninja 650 that I have been riding for about 4 months now. Now I do love the Bike, and is a great beginner bike for me, but I rode a ninja 250 couple of days ago, and enjoyed it very much! I feel like I can be more confident cornering in a 250 than a 650 since it's a way lighter bike! I personally would love to get a Ninja 300, but right now I have this offer, just wanted to know if it's a fair deal on my end.

My 2006 Ninja 650 with 3k miles, two brothers racing exhaust, power commander 3, LED underlay lights, tinted zero Gravity shield, all of which were installed by the nice guys at Motorcycles Unlimited.

Trade for a 2012 Ninja 250 with 2k miles, with just a aftermarket exhaust(not sure the brand) and $350 cash.

I know I'll miss the power of the 650, but I kind of want to improve my riding skills on a smaller bike. Would this be a fair trade, or should I just sell the bike and try to get a ninja 300(which I really want)?

Thanks in advance!
How much will you miss the power? Because you are posting saying you want to improve your riding skills on a smaller bike, you can do the same thing on your 650. Hopping onto a 250/300 doesn't make you a better rider, if thats your reason then no dont do it. Also the 250 and 300 power wise are noticeably different. A 300 is much nicer for the street, in my opinion.

I think you should sell your 650 for cash, you also have tax return season coming up, weather is going to be consistently good again soon so you will be in a good market to sell that bike. Sell it and get the bike YOU really want. That trade btw, isnt fair imo.
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Old 12-13-2014, 01:35 AM   #6
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Keep the 650. Learn on it.
You can improve your skills on any motorcycle.
Put a couple of frame sliders on it and scoot around the track.
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Old 12-13-2014, 11:18 AM   #7
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Maybe if the trade was for a 300... However, I personally wouldn't give up the versatility of the 650 for the 250/300.

I race both my SV650 which is similar performance to your Ninja in sprints and a Ninja 300 with an endurance team, and have a couple of hours racing a 250 as well. Outright cornering ability is about the same on all 3, but the bigger bike is more stable in the corners and i think that equates to confidence. Yes the smaller bikes are lighter and more nimble initiating a lean and changing directions however the frames on the 650's are stiffer and the bikes don't flex and wander as much as the 250/300. The 300 is better than the 250 in that aspect, but even on fully race-prepped motorcycles the 650's feel more planted and confidence inspiring in the corners.

So I know you are FAR from any race pace, but still I think the only thing you would gain from the 250 is slightly lighter weight, and lose too many other benefits.

We'll start up track days again in February. Bring the 650 out and you'll quickly gain confidence that will translate to confidence both on the track and at street legal speeds as well.
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If you want a smaller bike then get the 300. Besides the fuel injection and extra power they are just better bikes. I agree with X-ray though, the main reason why "big" bikes is their massive amounts of power. Your 650 doesn't have tons of power and will feel much better in the turns. 300's wiggle around in the turns.

Get whatever bike YOU want and then take it to the track.
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Old 12-14-2014, 02:25 AM   #9
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That is a bad deal for you and a gift for the other guy. Nobody gets rid of their 250 that easy.

If the weight is the issue I suggest the following.

Buy some cheap cones and go to a parking lot and do the MSFcourses using your bike. They are at back of this pamphlet.

http://msf-usa.org/downloads/Street_Motorcycle_Tips.pdf

I did this when I started riding on with a Bandit 1200 on the street and it helped a lot.

The next I suggest is ride a lot. And after about 6 months of primarly commuting by bike go do a track day.

I remember I use to worry if a light I was approaching was going to change. After the track day I was disappointed when they stayed green.

It was a unique beginner only day and one thing I can remember is doing brake drill where we came down pit lane at moderate speed to stop if front of the instructor without the bike rocking. Each time we went around the track that second session we did this and each time decreased the distance, hard braking at first and soft braking at end. I suggest adding this to your exercises above.
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