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Old 12-02-2014, 06:27 PM   #21
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That's text book example of what they say NOT to do (by stache). They showed a video in level one showing one guy going inside, another cutting back onto the correct line and wrecking.
They even said if you blow a corner, slow down, get back on line as soon as possible so you are setup for the next corner.
And, they stated to never pass in that corner, all day.

So, yes... bad pass for level 1. But you all came out alright... so both learn for next time and try to obey the rules per level, because everyone else out there is expecting you to.

EDIT: I rode sunday... but I assume it was all the same rules/examples.
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I plead no contest.

...but I'm still faster
I'm older, I have three kids, and I'm fat. You should be faster.

We can test that some time down the road.

You have a kid now...your times a comin whippersnapper. You'll see. And it's worth every second you lose at the track.
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I'm older, I have three kids, and I'm fat. You should be faster.

We can test that some time down the road.

You have a kid now...your times a comin whippersnapper. You'll see. And it's worth every second you lose at the track.
Mongo not fat, no mater what Tojo says...
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Finally someone with some humor. I did run hot into the corner. Glad it came out OK. It seemed there was lot of corner parking that day. I was a noob once myself. Stache it was nice you talked to the instructor. I do not have engine braking so I depend on my brakes too much sometimes. And that track is too rough for hard braking in spots for my novice riding.
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If I did not run hot in the corner, especially on the wrong line, none of this would of happened. I was concerned with running into the guy already on line in the corner so i went wide. Also concerned with traction outside the line with all the morning chaos. I was gradually coming back on line because i knew there were three bikes behind me that I also screwed up. Even with ear plugs I heard you by me and gave up coming back on line. That was a good pass instead of a (bump). I think all in all it was a good learning experience. You did fine and I managed to get the next corner completed. I was flustered for a few corners and composed myself. It took two more laps to catch you and you finally got held up on the back straight and I got by on the left. You probably saw me run wide in 10 right after that and went off track with an instructor immediately passing me. Came in after that. I usually skip every other session to keep fresh but with the hold up due to the L3 morning crash we all got behind for an 1 1/2 hours or so. By the way hope he is doing OK. There was a lot of downed rider and off track excursions that day. It was all fun, great to see Myla, Rod, Lou, Jim, and everyone for the end of the season. Hope Jim enjoyed taking the RZ out. Next time Jim you need to run it in the powerband. Looking forward to COTA next year and hopefully get the engine in the aluminum frame. Time for a RZ diet. Thanks for all the remarks and everyone have a wonderful Christmas, a safe and healthy New Years, and see you all next season!!
Don't take this the wrong way, but I just read a bunch of excuses that free you from any fault. Also you're in level 1 and blew a turn, not sure you can call others a noob. Overall I think both parties learned how to avoid this situation in the future.
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rz500guy I think just about everyone in level one was trying to gauge the right entry speed for turn 10. I think a lot of parking happened at 3 and 10. For the life of me the most frustrating part of the track in terms of traffic and corner parking was the chicane on Sat.

I followed you past Stache going into 7, and was gaining on you thru 8 and 9. I thought I would get by you on your right when we got on the brakes for 10 but you carried some good speed but turned in really late for 10 so I slowed up to follow you thru 10 instead of possibly passing you on the inside. You ran way wide and off. Glad you're ok. Next season you may want think about turning in just a tad earlier there so you wind up on the line going through 10 instead of out wide.
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The chicane. Omg, the chicane. Whoever was going through it at 10mph almost got 400lbs of gsxr in their rear.
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It did turn into a congo line at times, I think that was the most dangerous part of the track all day. It was happening about every other lap or so. At least I had enough CC's to get buy them on the straight. Although, I came up on a guy tipping through there on an R1 at like 10mph only to have him drag race me down the straight before I could finally get by on the outside in 1. Still a great day!
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It did turn into a congo line at times, I think that was the most dangerous part of the track all day. It was happening about every other lap or so. At least I had enough CC's to get buy them on the straight. Although, I came up on a guy tipping through there on an R1 at like 10mph only to have him drag race me down the straight before I could finally get by on the outside in 1. Still a great day!
A little disappointed the EBR wouldnt demolish the r1 on the straight.
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A little disappointed the EBR wouldnt demolish the r1 on the straight.
Chalk that up to the RIDER not the Bike

My approach to track days is simple. DON'T crash. No point in maxing out my speed down the straight when I haven't gotten consistent with my shift, braking and turn in points for turn at the end of it. You had people blasting down the straight at 150 only to check down way early to something crazy slow like 60 or 70 going into turn 1 right in front of you.

For the record, I did out motor a Tuno and a Panigale S coming out of 15 in the second to last session!
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Chalk that up to the RIDER not the Bike

My approach to track days is simple. DON'T crash. No point in maxing out my speed down the straight when I haven't gotten consistent with my shift, braking and turn in points for turn at the end of it. You had people blasting down the straight at 150 only to check down way early to something crazy slow like 60 or 70 going into turn 1 right in front of you.

For the record, I did out motor a Tuno and a Panigale S coming out of 15 in the second to last session!
You should be able to out motor most bikes especially coming out of the corners.

Glad you had self control and didn't just blast open the throttle and then park it. It's much easier to set entry speed when you aren't going ridiculously fast.
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I'm older, I have three kids, and I'm fat. You should be faster.

We can test that some time down the road.

You have a kid now...your times a comin whippersnapper. You'll see. And it's worth every second you lose at the track.
I'm just glad I'm better looking.
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The chicane. Omg, the chicane. Whoever was going through it at 10mph almost got 400lbs of gsxr in their rear.
2nd session sunday morning I ended up behind someone parking it big time... looked down thinking "Are we REALLY going 30mph?!?!?".... the he ripped on it down the straight and I couldn't get by on my 650r.

I basically cruised the straight at 80mph most of the day... it meant I had open track ahead for the rest of the lap and didn't catch the parkers till i got back around to the last few corners. Even the DRZ was in full tuck blowing past me I know my bike will do 130mph... didn't need to do it every lap
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Wow, that video didn't feel like level 1.
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I need to be more attentive to the speeds I carry into corners. I caught myself several times running too close entering a corner. I have to depend on my brakes so much and forget how much a four stroke, like my Ducati, will almost stop when you let off the gas. Every track day is a learning experience as we all know.

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really is a great pic. makes us look like we're in lvl 3.
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You have better body position. I think I need to detail my bike out a bit. Looks a little rough. Maybe that is why people let me by.
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