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Old 12-01-2014, 09:22 PM   #1
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TWS (Texas World Speedway) Nov 29 level1 bad pass by me or?

Forgot how rough TWS (Texas World Speedway) is after COTA and ran hot into turn 10. Was about to get back on line and

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Old 12-01-2014, 09:32 PM   #2
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Old 12-01-2014, 09:35 PM   #3
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eh, that was me.
I was on the race line. You over shot. I stayed on the line.
It was close and I apologize, but it was safer than running into the side of you.
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Old 12-01-2014, 09:48 PM   #4
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mistakes happen, but i dont think stache should have gone inside you like that (lmao that sounds funny) i think he should have just waited because he doesn't know if you're about to crash, re correct your line or what.
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eh, that was me.
I was on the race line. You over shot. I stayed on the line.
It was close and I apologize, but it was safer than running into the side of you.

Stay in level 1 until you learn to follow the rules.
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its a mistake, learn from it and move on.
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mistakes happen, but i dont think stache should have gone inside you like that (lmao that sounds funny) i think he should have just waited because he doesn't know if you're about to crash, re correct your line or what.
Meh, Stache did the right thing by holding his line and carrying on. Had he tried and do something different, he could have crashed.

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mistakes happen, but i dont think stache should have gone inside you like that (lmao that sounds funny) i think he should have just waited because he doesn't know if you're about to crash, re correct your line or what.
I agree that I should not have passed on the inside in lvl1.
I spoke with the instructors after and told them what happened in order to learn from the situation.

Here's what happened from my perspective:
  • rz500guy shot past on my right
  • I committed to the turn, turned my head and eyes through the turn
  • kept going

Things happen fast on the track and I made a quick decision to keep going and let the other rider get back on the line safely.

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eh, that was me.
I was on the race line. You over shot. I stayed on the line.
It was close and I apologize, but it was safer than running into the side of you.
If level one is the "beginner" group, next time simply roll off, brake, and wait. You can then pass cleanly on the next short straight. The beginner group tends to have various and/or erratic lines run from time to time for many reasons. All part of learning. Best place to do it regardless.

Edit. Saw your newr posts. Looks like you have a good grip on it all. Move on and stay after it.
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It would've been an OK pass for lvl 3, but risky when riders in lvl 1 don't always have predictable lines. At least it turned out ok.
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Stache I agree with Tojo that it would have been better to roll off and let rz500 do his thing but staying on the racing line was also good.

For rz500guy, I would say if you blow a turn like that then be careful just darting back onto the line. I was told when I started racing is to make sure I left room for a bike to fit on either side of me so the fast guys will have track to get around me.

Glad no one got hurt and that only one douche showed up in the thread.
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I was told when I started racing is to make sure I left room for a bike to fit on either side of me so the fast guys will have track to get around me.
I was told the same. My Prov Nov requirement was filled during a BBE on a GSXR600. Every turn I went into, I left room (about a door's width) to allow for the faster guys to get by. They all did, on either side and very cleanly without issues.

You have to hold your line and be somewhat consistent, the faster guys will get around you and you will have the best seat on the house to see how it is done as you progress.

RZguy, If you blow your line in the future, trying to cut back to it could have bad results. Be aware that others will try to get through in the faster groups as 1FC said.

No harm in the end for either rider and good things to learn from for all working their way up to speed.
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I was told the same. My Prov Nov requirement was filled during a BBE on a GSXR600. Every turn I went into, I left room (about a door's width) to allow for the faster guys to get by. They all did, on either side and very cleanly without issues.
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Finally someone with some humor. I did run hot into the corner. Glad it came out OK. It seemed there was lot of corner parking that day. I was a noob once myself. Stache it was nice you talked to the instructor. I do not have engine braking so I depend on my brakes too much sometimes. And that track is too rough for hard braking in spots for my novice riding.
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If I did not run hot in the corner, especially on the wrong line, none of this would of happened. I was concerned with running into the guy already on line in the corner so i went wide. Also concerned with traction outside the line with all the morning chaos. I was gradually coming back on line because i knew there were three bikes behind me that I also screwed up. Even with ear plugs I heard you by me and gave up coming back on line. That was a good pass instead of a (bump). I think all in all it was a good learning experience. You did fine and I managed to get the next corner completed. I was flustered for a few corners and composed myself. It took two more laps to catch you and you finally got held up on the back straight and I got by on the left. You probably saw me run wide in 10 right after that and went off track with an instructor immediately passing me. Came in after that. I usually skip every other session to keep fresh but with the hold up due to the L3 morning crash we all got behind for an 1 1/2 hours or so. By the way hope he is doing OK. There was a lot of downed rider and off track excursions that day. It was all fun, great to see Myla, Rod, Lou, Jim, and everyone for the end of the season. Hope Jim enjoyed taking the RZ out. Next time Jim you need to run it in the powerband. Looking forward to COTA next year and hopefully get the engine in the aluminum frame. Time for a RZ diet. Thanks for all the remarks and everyone have a wonderful Christmas, a safe and healthy New Years, and see you all next season!!
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