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Old 11-12-2014, 01:03 PM   #1
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Custom suit: Pilot or Heroic?

I'm getting tired of an ill fitting Alpinestars suit. Even after some alterations it just doesn't seem to fit right so I'm taking the plunge into custom leathers.

Obviously Pilot seems like the most popular choice but the kangaroo/cowhide suit that Heroic offers looks appealing too. Anyone dealt with both?
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I love my Syed leathers...one of the best suits ever. I still have it 15 years old. http://www.syedleathers.com/
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I'm glad you asked. I currently rock a killer custom heroic suit. I'll post pictures below. First I'll tell you how much I love my suit and how awesome Todd mcnabey has treated me. The suits quality is awesome, the fit is perfect and I get tons of compliments.

Now for my story, I ordered in early December last year and got the design finalized in January. I didn't receive my suit until June and I'm still waiting on my gloves. The sales lady(no longer there) fed me bs after bs after bs and would never stop talking to listen to what I had to say. I emailed Todd and all of a sudden my suit shipped. The problem is their suits are made in Pakistan and they have no sense of punctuality and delivering their goods in a timely matter. I know Todd has been working hard to get the time line to move along quicker but from my experience only order a custom suit from them if you have time to wait.

The big question, will I order another heroic suit and gloves? Yes but not custom ones, I am close enough to off the rack sizes that custom doesn't hold much value.

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I love my Syed leathers...one of the best suits ever. I still have it 15 years old. http://www.syedleathers.com/
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I finally wore out my syed leathers this season after something like 12-13 years of use.

they are heavier than most of the off-the-rack suits, but the thicker leather also means they crash much better than most of the off-the-rack suits...
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i ordered my heroic suit in november, received the wrong one in april or may-ish, after being told february. I was able to borrow that suit until mine came in. During which, stitching in the chest came undone and was exposing skin, having only worn in a handful of times and never crashed.

Got my 'correct' one 3-4 months after that. It still wasn't exactly what I had ordered, but at that point, I didn't care. I just wanted to be done with it. My new suit has held up well in 3 different crashes. Not great, but definitely not bad either. With gear, you never really know how one compares to another because people just dont get in the same wrecks.

It was a pretty frustrating process and I didn't like the lack of communication, but it is what it is. Todd has always been incredibly nice to me, but I think the service lacks.
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There's a few of those companies (heroic and ballistik) that use the same factory in Pakistan. Quality control and fit are occasionally an issue. Count your lucky stars if any overseas custom suit fits right the first time and is delivered on time.

My pilot suit fit right the first time but I think they typically alter and off the rack suit so it's probably easier to get right the first time.

I've heard kick things about Syed as long as you can deal with the late 70's look! Made in USA (FL I think)
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i ordered my heroic suit in november, received the wrong one in april or may-ish, after being told february. I was able to borrow that suit until mine came in. During which, stitching in the chest came undone and was exposing skin, having only worn in a handful of times and never crashed.

Got my 'correct' one 3-4 months after that. It still wasn't exactly what I had ordered, but at that point, I didn't care. I just wanted to be done with it. My new suit has held up well in 3 different crashes. Not great, but definitely not bad either. With gear, you never really know how one compares to another because people just dont get in the same wrecks.

It was a pretty frustrating process and I didn't like the lack of communication, but it is what it is. Todd has always been incredibly nice to me, but I think the service lacks.
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I believe I talked to you at a track day event, mine seems to be a better quality than the ones you got. I believe they switched factories between yours and mine. Hopefully I won't need another suit for a few more seasons.
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There's a few of those companies (heroic and ballistik) that use the same factory in Pakistan. Quality control and fit are occasionally an issue. Count your lucky stars if any overseas custom suit fits right the first time and is delivered on time.

My pilot suit fit right the first time but I think they typically alter and off the rack suit so it's probably easier to get right the first time.

I've heard kick things about Syed as long as you can deal with the late 70's look! Made in USA (FL I think)
You weren't kidding about the retro look
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I just ordered a suit from hazardous. So far the service has been great!
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There's a few of those companies (heroic and ballistik) that use the same factory in Pakistan. Quality control and fit are occasionally an issue. Count your lucky stars if any overseas custom suit fits right the first time and is delivered on time.

My pilot suit fit right the first time but I think they typically alter and off the rack suit so it's probably easier to get right the first time.

I've heard kick things about Syed as long as you can deal with the late 70's look! Made in USA (FL I think)
Myla and I lucked out with the suits from Brandt and Lisa and we are forever grateful. These suits made us fell safe. Top notch stuff! Ballistik that is...
Jol with CatWalk makes custom made suits and she have years of experience. She is up north of Houston just after Conroe. With jol I know that you can ask her all kinds of customs things to be done so as water reservoir where the hump is, you can choose on the grade of the armor, pockets and mane tags on the liner, and she have a huge selection of brand name patches and more. She does all my repairs and alterations... 936-520-1632

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Slyder on here can fix you up Scott. She does some bad work. She built me a backpack that was a duplicate of my nylon one that kept wearing out.
I was planning to see what she can do with them. the perf on the sleeves (in the crook of my arm) is disintegrating leaving ever expanding holes.

given my recent trip down the pavement at TWS (Texas World Speedway) T1 (), I'm not all that keen to test the durability of those areas now.

my guess is that the whole sleeve area on both sides will need to be reconstructed with fresh leather, but maybe slyder can put patches on or something.

syed will do the work, too, but I was getting a little tired of the "condiment man" look. plus, these were made for me when I was 50 lbs (!) heavier than I am now, so I really need a full set of alterations anyway.
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I was planning to see what she can do with them. the perf on the sleeves (in the crook of my arm) is disintegrating leaving ever expanding holes.

given my recent trip down the pavement at TWS (Texas World Speedway) T1 (), I'm not all that keen to test the durability of those areas now.

my guess is that the whole sleeve area on both sides will need to be reconstructed with fresh leather, but maybe slyder can put patches on or something.

syed will do the work, too, but I was getting a little tired of the "condiment man" look. plus, these were made for me when I was 50 lbs (!) heavier than I am now, so I really need a full set of alterations anyway.
Have you considered retiring them...or at least opening up a hot dog stand?
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Scott, Slyder can build the whole sleeve no problem or just replace panels...and lol at the hot dog stand comment Jredford! lol.

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Thanks for the help guys. Looks like I'll be ordering from Pilot. I need the suit by February and the whole being make in Pakistan kind of turns me off.
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I have all my "vintage" pictures Scott lol
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